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The Seven Year Peace Treaty in Israel Has Been Signed.......... |
http://beforeitsnews.com/news/34247/The_Seven_Year_Peace_Treaty_in_Israel_Has_Been_Signed.html ^ | April 18th, 2010

Posted on 04/19/2010 11:45:07 AM PDT by TaraP

(Interesting Perspective)

Many students of bible prophecy have missed the signing of the 7 year peace treaty in Israel simply because they have not taken God's word literally. Before I go on let me quote the 2 main verses that reveal this event in prophecy.

Daniel 9:26, 'And after sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for himself: And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end shall be with a flood, and until the end of the war desolations are determined.

Daniel 9:27, 'Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week: but in the midst of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. and on the wing of abomination shall be one who makes it desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined is poured out on the desolate.

For those who are fairly new to bible prophecy I will be giving a little bit of boring information that is commonly accepted as truth during this presentation.

The word week here can easily be proved to mean weeks of years. One way to prove this is to go back to Genesis where Laban gives his daughters to Isaac for a week and it is revealed that he fulfills his 7 years. As well, the first 7 and 62 weeks where fulfilled exactly to the day when the Messiah was cut off and died when using the one day equals a year formula or the weeks of years rather than week. So then 7 and 62 weeks of years is equal to 483 years.

The 70 weeks in Daniel 9: 24 equals 490 years. The remaining 7 years that is the difference has never been fulfilled.

Note that it is not uncommon for scriptures to have undetermined allotments of time dividing one event from another. This is the case in this 490 years. Though the first 483 were fulfilled to the exact day when Jesus the Christ was crucified, the last 7 years has never in history been fulfilled to the letter until recently.

Now to understand who will make this covenant we must unravel Daniel 9:26. Here we are told that the prince of the people who destroyed the city will make the covenant.

In 70 A.D. Titus was given orders from Rome to take Israel into captivity and to destroy the city of Jerusalem. Judging from this then it was the Roman Empire that destroyed the city. So then the prince who will make the covenant is to be a prince of Rome.

Well many would say that the Roman Empire does not exist today, however , that is not entirely true. The Western Roman Empire fell to Germanic hordes in about 400 A.D. but the Eastern Empire remained in Constantinople until the 1400s. The main religion in Rome became Christianity by order of Emperor Constantine around 200 A.D.

At some point it was declared the Holy Roman Empire and popes were given rule over Rome. Though it is true that the Roman Empire did not exist after the 1400s, the Holy Roman Catholic Monarchy existed to this day. Now in our time we have the European Union whose 10 full member states all rule under the Holy Roman Catholic Monarchy, hence the Empire still exists to this day.

If you will do a study of the kingdoms that were to rule according to dreams and visions throughout Daniel you will learn that Rome was to be the final kingdom before the end of this age.

In Daniel 2 the statue with the head of gold was to be followed by the kingdom of silver and then bronze, then iron and then iron and clay. We know from Daniel 8 that the Gold represented Nebuchadnezzar, the silver was the Medes and the Persians, the bronze was the Greeks and history proves that the final kingdom was the Roman Empire.

Though there are 27 nations that belong to the European Union, there are only 10 that are full members with veto rites. The other 17 nations are lesser states. So then the prince that must confirm the covenant must come out of the EU.

Now the word 'prince' in Daniel 9:26 can be translated prince, commander, chief or any other title that could be considered an authority. This prince is to make a covenant with many nations so we see that he has something to do with foreign affairs.

The word covenant can be translated covenant or agreement. However, it does not mean 'peace treaty' as so many teach. This teaching stems from the idea that because first Thessalonians 5:4 says, 'And when they cry peace and safety, sudden destruction comes upon them'. If you study the context of Thessalonians you will find that it pertains to the time of the rapture at the end of the 7 years and has nothing to do with the topic at hand. No, in order top recognize the 7 year covenant you must realize that it is not necessarily a peace treaty.

Joveir Solana, whose office was Secretary General of the Western European Union, made separate agreements with many Middle Eastern countries over several years prior to 2007. These agreements would give each country the right to receive loans from the EU for the purpose of bringing stability in many areas of their governments. These loans would require substantial financial commitments from EU full member states and therefore had to be fixed into the EU upcoming budget. The term of the EU budget is 7 years and was due for renewal on Jan. 01/2007.

On this date Jovier Solana made a quick trip to the required office and gave his signature 'confirming' the agreements that he had set up prior to this date and therefore fulfilled all of the requirements that are called for in Daniel 9:26,27.

Now according to Daniel 9:27 he is to bring an end to the daily sacrifice in Jerusalem. Many have argued that there has to be a temple built in Jerusalem before he can do this. I believe you will find that this is not true if you pay close attention to the scriptures surrounding this issue. We know from second Thessalonians 2 that the wicked sits in the temple as god, however this event does not take place until the end of the 7 year covenant. Therefore it does not require a temple in the midst of the 7 years. Some say that he sits in the temple in the midst of the seven, but scripture says they set up an abomination and this is better translated an idol and cannot be translated as a person.

All that is required in the temple grounds for Daniel 9:27 is a place to do sacrifice. Israel has this now. They have just finished building an alter of sacrifice recently that fits requirements laid down in old testament law. As we speak Israel is calling on Jews world wide to send money to purchase lambs for sacrifices they are planning this June. Sometime in mid June is the middle of the 7 year covenant. They exact date is unknown because scripture tells us that the sacrifice will be stopped 'around' the middle of the 7 years.

From Daniel 11:21-31 we know that the king of Syria is responsible for the command to take away the daily sacrifice. According to history the king of the North in this scripture is this king of Syria. We are told in the verses mentioned that he will move against the king of the south, which history and the scriptures tell us is Egypt. Scripture tells us that he is stopped by ships from Kittim, which today is Cyprus.

He will be angry at the covenant, probably because if the covenant was not in place these ships would not be there. We are told that he has intelligence against those that transgress the covenant. This is very likely the fact that they are doing sacrifices of thousands of lambs which I am sure is contrary to UN laws governing the handling of sheep. The EU is tied to the laws of agriculture put forward by the UN. Daniel 11:31 then tells us that 'arms rise up on his part and take away the daily sacrifice and set there the abomination that causes desolation.

Notice that arms rise up on his part. In other words he squeals but someone else does the dirty work. In Daniel 8:11 we find that it is the Little Horn that actually takes away the daily sacrifice and sets up the abomination that causes desolation.

More about him in a minute.

Recently Syria has been trying to mend fences with Egypt, however, more recently they have had a parting of ways. We can only watch and see how this drama unfolds. But know this, that we are approaching the midst of the 7 years. Everything is in place for prophetic scriptures to unfold as we speak.

Now concerning the Little Horn there is much debate on who this could be but if we look at scripture we can narrow it down quite a bit and I believe his identity is obvious once you have the right information. First of all Daniel 8 :8,9 points you at the geographic region that he must come from.

The male goat here is said to come from Greece in verse 21. It followed the Medes and the Persians in verse 20. History tells us that this goat was Alexander the Great and that 8:9 is speaking of the 4 generals that divided his kingdom. So from here we can see that the Little Horn is not the president of the USA or an up and coming king of England etc... He is coming out of the Middle East. There are a couple of clues here that could not have been recognized many years ago but are now definite give aways.

Now understand that the main countries today that should be watched, considering the 4 generals territories, are Greece, Turkey, Syria, Assyria, Iran, Palestine and Egypt.

First the Little Horn waxes great toward the east, south and the pleasant land. In recent months Turkey has been calling on Muslim nations to form what I will call a union. If he succeeds it could be said that he has waxed great toward Iran, Egypt and Syria and Palestine.

Second he rises up among the 10 horns of the EU. For several years Turkey has been trying very hard to be accepted as a full member of the EU and if he does will be the first Muslim member. He will also have risen up among them as 'another Little Horn'. It should also be noted that he is the only country in the territories of the 4 generals who is even trying. 9 out of 10 of the existing members support his membership.

Now once he joins he must devour three of the former horns. This has been taught to mean that he forces himself on three members but what if he rather is supported by three members and is handed their support through intrigue and a silver tongue?

Watch and pray that you might be found worthy of that day.


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1 posted on 04/19/2010 11:45:07 AM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

OK, so the seven years started when? January 1, 2007?


2 posted on 04/19/2010 11:48:06 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa; TaraP
OK, so the seven years started when? January 1, 2007?

I second that question. If so, what must happen by January 1, 2014? And on January 2, 2014, when none of those things have happened, will you consider the possibility that your eschatology contains major errors?

3 posted on 04/19/2010 11:50:14 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: xjcsa; Star Traveler

I’m not sure..

I am going to ask Star Traveler about this....

Please ST, can you assist on this one?


4 posted on 04/19/2010 11:52:16 AM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

So many holes in this hermeneutic, one knows not where to begin.


5 posted on 04/19/2010 11:53:39 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: Genoa

#1, The word for confirm in Daniel is gavar, which means strengthen. A covenant is signed and later the AC comes along and strengthens it. The covenant could well be Oslo. But maybe not.

#2, He causes the sacrifice to cease. This is not possible at this juncture. Still future.

#3, it is Javier Solana that signed the economic treaty - a favorite of many for AC - which leads this to being more newspaper exegesis than try biblical interpretation.

#4, the Rapture is prior, not after the seven years. Many will disagree with me on this on this forum, fine. But, if I am right, the whole thing is yet future.


6 posted on 04/19/2010 11:53:54 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: TaraP
I am a believer in end-times bible prophecy, but even I would say it is too big of a jump to claim the peace treaty has already been signed.
7 posted on 04/19/2010 11:54:49 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: TaraP

If you cross your eyes, recite the 9 times tables out loud 36 times, bend over so that the top of your head faces the planet of Venus-but only when it is quarter moon and high tide, you will see how this all works out perfectly to show that my calculations are correct!


8 posted on 04/19/2010 11:54:58 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: TaraP

Earthquakes...signs in the heavens....wars... knowledge increase. Not because there are more, but because 99% percent of humanity knows about them when ever they happen.


9 posted on 04/19/2010 11:57:04 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: TaraP

Not yet it hasn’t. I would recommend being careful of such info.

For years, too many people have tried to make Juan Carlos or Javier Solana the Antichrist. And they spend a lot of time and energy going down that path, tracking every move and statement they made.

Tony Blair is now the Quartet’s main man for “Middle East peace” and has said quite a bit on this issue.

But the 7-year deal has not been announced, and most likely, not finalized yet.


10 posted on 04/19/2010 11:57:56 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: NavyCanDo
I would agree with one thing though concerning the end times, and many of you would say the same. Something over the last year or so seems to have set in motion.
11 posted on 04/19/2010 11:59:15 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

I guess a fair question could be....

*As Christians will we be a witness to the signing of Israel’s 7 yr Peace Treaty?*


12 posted on 04/19/2010 11:59:36 AM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

Are you pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, pre-wrath, or partial rapture?


13 posted on 04/19/2010 12:01:48 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks F15 Eagle....

This is how we learn from truth’s and deceptions IMHO......


14 posted on 04/19/2010 12:02:00 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Genoa

Post- Trib.....


15 posted on 04/19/2010 12:02:53 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: xjcsa

Actually there is only six months left to go. After three and a half years of the seven year treaty, all hell breaks loose. Right?


16 posted on 04/19/2010 12:03:40 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: TaraP

Then, yep, we’ll be here, and it won’t be pretty, especially during the last three and a half years. But God will protect us if we stick with him.


17 posted on 04/19/2010 12:04:32 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: TaraP; All
Many students of bible prophecy have missed the signing of the 7 year peace treaty in Israel simply because they have not taken God's word literally. Before I go on let me quote the 2 main verses that reveal this event in prophecy.

Daniel 9:26, 'And after sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for himself: And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end shall be with a flood, and until the end of the war desolations are determined.

-snip-

The term of the EU budget is 7 years and was due for renewal on Jan. 01/2007. On this date Jovier Solana made a quick trip to the required office and gave his signature 'confirming' the agreements that he had set up prior to this date and therefore fulfilled all of the requirements that are called for in Daniel 9:26,27.

What about that nagging detail of the flood mentioned in Daniel 9:26?
18 posted on 04/19/2010 12:05:30 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Genoa; TaraP

Or maybe you meant, “Will we know when it happens?”


19 posted on 04/19/2010 12:08:37 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: TaraP

Yeah, I have few good and sincere friends who gave up on Juan Carlos and moved on to proving Javier Solana is the Antichrist.

We just can’t know until that man is revealed. That being said, one can certainly see this is a constant issue and we are building towards that day.

50 years ago, with a relatively-young Israel, nobody was talking about this. But now it is something the USA, the EU, Russia and the U.N. are pushing for.

http://www.thebereancall.org/node/2589

It definitely is a sign of the times.


20 posted on 04/19/2010 12:09:33 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Genoa
...by all dates referenced... mid Oct 2006.

The EU made some hefty decisions about/against Israel that month. See -

http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/ENPa.html
21 posted on 04/19/2010 12:10:43 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: TaraP
The main religion in Rome became Christianity by order of Emperor Constantine around 200 A.D.

Wrong. Constantine's pagan mother wasn't even a glimer in his gradmother mother's eye in 200 CE.

All that is required in the temple grounds for Daniel 9:27 is a place to do sacrifice. Israel has this now. They have just finished building an alter of sacrifice recently that fits requirements laid down in old testament law. As we speak Israel is calling on Jews world wide to send money to purchase lambs for sacrifices they are planning this June.

Absolutely false.
22 posted on 04/19/2010 12:11:11 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: xjcsa
your eschatology contains major errors

What's yours?

23 posted on 04/19/2010 12:11:30 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: fso301

The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed...

Come like a Flood of *LIGHT*


24 posted on 04/19/2010 12:11:35 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Genoa

Yes...That is what I mean..:)


25 posted on 04/19/2010 12:12:22 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

“I guess a fair question could be....
*As Christians will we be a witness to the signing of Israel’s 7 yr Peace Treaty?*”

I am a Pre-Tribulation Rapture person so I wold say No. There are plenty of other things happening in this world though, that no matter where you sit on the Rapture its hard to miss that something is happening and God’s clock is clicking so much closer to midnight.


26 posted on 04/19/2010 12:12:23 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Genoa

Pan-trib.

It’ll all pan out in the end.


27 posted on 04/19/2010 12:12:43 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: hiredhand

Mid-October 2006? Yikes! Three and a half years after that is: April 2010!!!


28 posted on 04/19/2010 12:12:54 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa
...by all dates referenced... mid Oct 2006.

The EU made some hefty decisions about/against Israel that month. See -

http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/ENPa.html
29 posted on 04/19/2010 12:13:07 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: TaraP
*As Christians will we be a witness to the signing of Israel’s 7 yr Peace Treaty?*

No, based on 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8:

6And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;

The Antichrist will not be revealed until the One Who restrains him, the Holy Spirit who indwells those who have accepted Christ as Savior, is "taken out of the way", or removed.

The Church will be gone before the Antichrist is revealed.

30 posted on 04/19/2010 12:14:48 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: TaraP

Gosh, I would think that something of that significance would need to be a public event. But maybe a secret agreement would be possible, or maybe something that is reported but not recognized for what it is. Good question.


31 posted on 04/19/2010 12:16:09 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: fso301

Well it could be symbolic of the “flood” of the Dragon (i.e. Satan) of Revelation 12:15-16. It could be literal or it could mean the massive military assault when all nations come against Israel.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2012:15-16&version=KJV


32 posted on 04/19/2010 12:16:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Quix

Can’t believe you haven’t seen this yet.


33 posted on 04/19/2010 12:17:39 PM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Yes, but I think the Antichrist is already at work, we now have the Antichrist’s spirit in the world...

My understanding is we will not be here when he is announced. (Saying he is GOD in the temple)


34 posted on 04/19/2010 12:18:17 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

When I was a young Christian in the 1970’s I got caught up in all of those end-time books lining the bibles book stores shelves. The most notable was Hal Lindseys, The Late Great Planet Earth.
Although they were fascinating reading for a young Christian, so much of it seemed too far fetched to believe that it could happen in my life time. 150, 200 years out maybe, but not in my life time.

Boy has times changed, and my feelings about when these events could happen.

CASHLESS SOCIETY?
In the 1970’s the thought of using a debit card almost anyplace, including vending machines and parking lots seems just too far out. Yea, someday way off into the future. Well today I go weeks without paper money or coin. I can probably can go without it all together, if it wasn’t for the coffee kitty at work.

ONE WORLD LEADER?
This was always a great mystery. How could one man become so popular so fast as to set him self up as God in a short 3 ½ years. Mystery no more. I am not saying Obama is the Antichrist, but his coming from nowhere in such a short time to become a Godhead among his Koolaid drinking followers that spread beyond our borders, is just too strange. It shows you how fast the real Antichrist can enter the World Stage.

WORLD GOVERNMENT?
Hard to fathom in the 1970’s. Now, its something even the main stream media is picking up on. And the World Wide Web, not something Hal Lindsey even dreamed of, now makes a World Government an easier thing to accomplish.

THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION?
The Temple would have to be rebuilt, right? Well there is serious talk of it now. News story from 5/26/09 Raad Salah: Netanyahu will Try to Rebuild the Jewish Temple http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131578


35 posted on 04/19/2010 12:19:36 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: esquirette; Quix

Yikes sorry Quix!

He is always first with ST!


36 posted on 04/19/2010 12:20:09 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP
Oh, absolutely, the spirit of Antichrist is alive and well in the world today. Anyone who can't see that is hopelessly, willfully blind.

I believe that since his identity has already been revealed- that he will be the one who confirms a peace contract with Israel and the nations- and that revealing to the world cannot occur until the "One Who restrains", or the Holy Spirit, is removed, we have to be gone before the contract is confirmed.

37 posted on 04/19/2010 12:22:30 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

There are a few different theories about “the one who restains.” Some say the Holy Spirit, that is, at the pre-trib rapture of the church. (But how do people get saved during the following period?) Others think it refers to the Roman government. Others think it means America gets taken out. Others think it’s Michael the archangel.


38 posted on 04/19/2010 12:22:30 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: NavyCanDo

Maybe it’s just that we have so much access to so much information that it feels differently but it does feel like we are rushing toward some kind of conclusion, doesn’t it?


39 posted on 04/19/2010 12:23:21 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /s tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: NavyCanDo; Genoa

Amen to that!

Genoa you made an interesting observation.....Since Satan (The Father of Lies) knows he cannot do so many of his outright deceptions in the world with the (Church) still here, how do we know many of these events are not happening behind the scenes...*In Secret*

I mean Obama was elected by devious means to fool so many....


40 posted on 04/19/2010 12:23:52 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: F15Eagle

>But the 7-year deal has not been announced, and most
>likely, not finalized yet.

But would it be a “7 year deal” or an eternal deal, which will be broken 3.5 years later, and then 3.5 years after that Christ cometh?

One things for sure, the love of men has grown cold.


41 posted on 04/19/2010 12:27:03 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: F15Eagle
Yeah, I have few good and sincere friends who gave up on Juan Carlos and moved on to proving Javier Solana is the Antichrist.

We just can’t know until that man is revealed. That being said, one can certainly see this is a constant issue and we are building towards that day.

OK. Lets muddy the waters. :^)

Obama was born a citizen of England (Colonial Kenyans were citizens of the crown). So technically he is from the european union. And yet he's not one of the ten. Hmmmmm.

42 posted on 04/19/2010 12:28:58 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: NavyCanDo

Yes, and add to that something that was true in the 1970’s and is still true today, even after all the cuts.

The ability of a few nations on the face of the Earth to start a war, that if allowed to reach its maximum level, would extinguish all human life on Earth. NBC weapons used in an all-out conflict.

http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=no+flesh+saved&searchtype=all&wholewordsonly=yes&version1=9&bookset=4

1. Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

2. Mark 13:20
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.


43 posted on 04/19/2010 12:29:33 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Genoa
What's yours?

Preterist.

44 posted on 04/19/2010 12:29:38 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: John O

And don’t forget the (half British) king of Jordan!


45 posted on 04/19/2010 12:30:02 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: TaraP; F15Eagle
Come like a Flood of *LIGHT*

You originally emphasised the need for a literal interpretation when you said:

Many students of bible prophecy have missed the signing of the 7 year peace treaty in Israel simply because they have not taken God's word literally

Please explain how a "flood of light" makes more sense from the standpoint of a literal interpretation than a "flood of water".

Daniel 9:26, 'And after sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for himself: And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end shall be with a flood, and until the end of the war desolations are determined.
When taking up a literal interpretation, one must not arbitrarily pick and choose when to interpret literally and when to interpret figuratively. The standard of interpretation must be consistent throughout the bible.
46 posted on 04/19/2010 12:30:25 PM PDT by fso301
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To: xjcsa

Full or partial?


47 posted on 04/19/2010 12:30:39 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa
I haven't read anywhere in Scripture where anyone or anything else has the power to restrain Satan other than God Himself.

We know that not only can human governments not restrain Satan, there is no angel who is more powerful in the angelic hierarchy than Satan so it can't be Michael who has been restraining Satan all these thousands of years, and it only takes a cursory glance at the front page of any newspaper to see that not only can America not restrain Satan, America is lurching further and further away from God with each passing day.

The Scripture doesn't give any hint at all of any person who has the power to control Satan other than God. This, along with the fact that every believer in Christ receives the Holy Spirit at the moment he or she accepts Christ as Savior leads many to believe that the "One Who restrains" in 2 Thessalonians can only be the Holy Spirit.

48 posted on 04/19/2010 12:31:39 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: TaraP

Unreadable.


49 posted on 04/19/2010 12:31:44 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: F15Eagle

Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

Which I have heard has to do with Nuclear War, before a Nuclear Bomb can be made and used on any Nations, Jesus will cut those days in half...


50 posted on 04/19/2010 12:33:10 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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