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To: Ripliancum; reaganaut
I'm saddened that you never had a relationship with the Savior while you were a member of the LDS faith

Even if you were in a position to evaluate & judge this in people's hearts (which you've never been)...
Even if it could be humanly determined as remotely true of anyone (which I doubt you'd claim you've garnered such a position)...
...how dare any spiritual underling of an apostle like Bruce R. McConkie, who taught BYU students in the early 1980s that they shouldn't seek a "special relationship" with Jesus Christ...
...would then bring this back up this as some "accusation" when in fact their spiritual authorities chased all kinds of Mormons from seeking such a relationship 28 years ago last March!!!

(I expect an apology to Reaganaut, and I expect a profuse "sorry" that you now accuse others of something that if it had ever was of Mormon BYU students...it could conceivably had been linked to a Mormon apostle's teaching that tried to chase away Mormons from relating to Christ!!!)

89 posted on 04/26/2010 11:31:17 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; Ripliancum

Thank you Colo. I do not see an apology by Rip coming since the LDS never admit they are wrong.

And you are very correct. The LDS PUSH people away from thinking they can even have a personal relationship with Jesus. What they call a ‘relationship’ is flat, distant, and cold under the guise of being ‘respect’. It isn’t a relationship at all and it isn’t love.

What it is, is very sad.

When i was LDS, I was a good, faithful, ‘worthy’ Mormon. I loved the LDS church, but I quickly outgrew it spiritually. The LDS Church just wasn’t enough, it couldn’t be, because there was no REAL relationship with Christ, just a fake one that they tell themselves they have.

That is not judging anothers heart, that is judging their doctrine and practice which cannot produce a personal relationship much like an lemon tree will not produce an apple.


90 posted on 04/27/2010 9:34:53 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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