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The Spiritual Toll of Pervasive Occultism
Spesunica ^ | April, 2010 | Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer

Posted on 05/04/2010 5:16:00 PM PDT by mlizzy

The Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer is president of Virginia-based Human Life International, which has affiliates and partners in 87 countries around the world. A trained exorcist, Fr. Euteneuer has been authorized to perform the ancient rite in several dioceses in the U.S.

Vampires, witches, Ouija boards, Satanic rock music and video games — innocent fun? I don't think so. The proliferation of these dark forces is creating a subculture of youth who are suffering the effects of occult involvement. The sheer magnitude of these demonic influences has already left us with a wounded generation of youth, many of whom will receive liberation and healing only through the priestly ministry of exorcism. The problem of demonic infestation has already become, shall we say, "legion" in our culture, and priests need respond to it with the love of Christ and the authority of the Church militant.

I learned this firsthand in 1995 when I was assigned to a large urban parish in Florida. One day, a young man walked into the parish office and sat down. He did not even ask to speak to a priest. I happened to be on duty at the time, so the nervous secretary asked me to meet with him right away. He said he did not know why he was there, but that "something" had led him there. That "something" might have been a demon, but more likely it was the Spirit of God leading him to the Church for deliverance from the demon.

Matt (not his real name) was obviously seriously disturbed. We talked, and he told me a tale of woe that was hard to believe. He seemed to have no father or mother and had never been baptized. He was living a life of rampant chaos in the house of his uncle and immersed himself almost constantly in Satanic music. The only social contacts he had were some really, really bad "friends," so-called Goth types, devotees of the hideous rock star Marilyn Manson. He admitted to doing drugs with them and experimenting with all kinds of occult matter that glorified Satan in both overt and indirect ways. He was fond of violent movies and video games — or more likely they were fond of him, a basically soulless cyber-addict.

One day he was with his "friends," and he overdosed. He ended up in the hospital and had an experience he could not forget. In a coma on the hospital bed, he felt like he was descending down a long, cold, and dark corridor. Fear began to grip him as he clearly understood just where it was he was descending to.

So he put his hand out to touch a wall or something, thinking that he could stop his descent, and as he did that, he felt something grab his arm and enter into his chest.
He was never the same after that. From that point on he was demonized. Sadly, I was transferred from the parish soon after that and was not able to help him further, but I often pray that he met another priest who gave him the spiritual care he needed.

Priests in pastoral ministry — that is, those on the front lines of the Church — will have to deal with this growing problem of occultism sooner or later, most especially among our youth, who are the prime target of Satan's wiles. Every manner of dark seduction now pervades our culture. In its soft form we see the proliferation of filth and blasphemy cleverly packaged and sold to spiritually stunted souls as entertainment or self-help services. St. Paul tells us that the Devil and his servitors come dressed as "angels of light," and there are thousands of kids being seduced by them as we sit in our rectories pondering the flower arrangements for Advent. Nothing is new under the sun except the titles. Old heresies and insidious evils are now marketed as various New Age practices: Reiki, transcendental meditation, energy healing, Ouija, Wicca, and psychic divinization.

PhotobucketOf note, television shows like Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Charmed, and their popular spawn especially target the younger generation and are followed with fanatical fervor. A whole generation of teenage girls is absolutely swooning about the new vampire flick, Twilight, and its sequel, New Moon. Some are going to this movie in prom dresses, fantasizing about what it would be like to fall in love with a vampire! This is anything but a fantasy. It is a potential gateway to grave spiritual danger for lonely, isolated kids who are "spiritually hungry" enough to explore the occult. The book Generation Hex notes that this generation of American kids is the first ever to grow up in a society in which Christianity has been stigmatized and the occult normalized. The authors also note that Wicca is the fastest growing "religion" in the U.S., and it's not hard to figure out why — there are no fewer than 700,000 Internet sites for "teenage witches." Meanwhile, the Pew Forum's "U.S. Religious Landscape Survey" found that "former Catholics" outnumber converts four to one. Ten percent of the U.S. population now consists of "ex-Catholics."

What needs to be recognized from a pastoral perspective is that a tidal wave of spiritual degradation is heading our way. "The wages of sin is death," said St. Paul (Rom. 6:23), and increasingly virulent forms of death are celebrated and institutionalized all around us. Even if the pervasive occultism were not bad enough, what kind of spiritual toll will we see from the pernicious sins that are both commonplace and celebrated in our culture: abortion, militant homosexuality, the ubiquitous plague of pornography, and the worship of any number of modern idols?

This deluge of sin and occultism should force the Church to give us more exorcists. But if priests don't respond to the need, we will have a severe accounting to the Lord for our vocations as pastors of souls. The number of lost sheep is increasing. In one exorcism I performed, the demon screamed out from the mouth of the young woman it had possessed,
"Lost! Lost! Lost soul!"
Ah, I countered, she was lost, but Christ found her and sent her to His Church.  [emphasis; mine]   (Read full article here).


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; devil; euteneuer; exorcism; mass; occult; rosary; sacraments; satan; vampires; witches
Please pray for Fr. Euteneuer and the end of evil in the world today ...
1 posted on 05/04/2010 5:16:00 PM PDT by mlizzy
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To: mlizzy

Thank you for posting. Now with Harry Potter world Park in Florida, what an explosion of occultic interest. I used to read fantasy novels there is some kind of spell on those books. I would always have a morbid interest to do something I never before thought. When I was a teenager I had spiritual manifestation from a Led Zeppelin album that stopped playing on the stereo. You know how I got out of it? I crumbled up my leg to my chest just saying the Our Father thinking of Jesus. I asked a reverend how that pray worked. He said its an exorcism pray at the end. “lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil”. Oh Boy was he right. A simply spoken pray but powerful with a simple trust in our Lord. Praise Jesus!


2 posted on 05/04/2010 6:37:40 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: mlizzy
"this generation of American kids is the first ever to grow up in a society in which Christianity has been stigmatized and the occult normalized."

It really is unbelievable to think of how things have changed in one or two generations. It was so common to express you faith...no matter what faith it was, when I was a teenager. Nobody made any comments or thought twice about it. Our high school even had BJ Thomas come one time for an assembly and talk about turning his life around and finding faith.
Nowadays you are made to feel uncomfortable with any public expression of Christian faith. My niece had a teacher come over and tell her to stop praying grace (silently to herself) in the lunchroom! The mere sight of a child bowing her head and folding her hands is somehow "offensive"?! It boggles the mind.

3 posted on 05/04/2010 6:48:55 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (All you have to do is the next right thing.)
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To: Sisku Hanne
Nowadays you are made to feel uncomfortable with any public expression of Christian faith. My niece had a teacher come over and tell her to stop praying grace (silently to herself) in the lunchroom! The mere sight of a child bowing her head and folding her hands is somehow "offensive"?! It boggles the mind.

Fr. Euteneuer is making a great effort in alerting folks with his writings/talks (not to mention his exorcisms!) that there is, in fact, a Satan that is on full-attack mode, and, of course, that's exactly why your sweet niece cannot even say a quiet prayer before lunch. We must hang tough and fight through prayer!
4 posted on 05/04/2010 7:25:37 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: johngrace
John, thanks for the comment and the good advice. The Our Father is a perfect prayer to dismantle the devil with. (I had a Led Zeppelin tape that I played over and over and over in my car -- no wonder I did some "shouting out" myself.:))

I've suggested to my kids to pray the Hail Mary (the devil really hates that prayer) whenever they are feeling despondent, anxious, or fearful. Be gone with that beast!! May he disappear into hell forever! St. Michael, the Archangel ...
5 posted on 05/04/2010 7:36:46 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy

**The only social contacts he had were some really, really bad “friends,” so-called Goth types, devotees of the hideous rock star Marilyn Manson. He admitted to doing drugs with them and experimenting with all kinds of occult matter that glorified Satan in both overt and indirect ways. He was fond of violent movies and video games — or more likely they were fond of him, a basically soulless cyber-addict.**

This was one of my biggest fears with my last two children in high school. So scary.


6 posted on 05/04/2010 7:43:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mlizzy

Satan is real. Satanism is real. Read “The Franklin Coverup” and you will see just how far up it has reach into the Corporate and Government worlds!
Pray, Pray, Pray is all I can say.


7 posted on 05/04/2010 7:45:38 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: mlizzy

The St Michael Pray is Very Very Powerful pray! But we have to be more bold in these days. I see this occult thing everywhere today. You ever hear Father Corapi talk about his days in Hollywood.


8 posted on 05/04/2010 7:47:46 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace
The St Michael Pray is Very Very Powerful pray! But we have to be more bold in these days. I see this occult thing everywhere today. You ever hear Father Corapi talk about his days in Hollywood.

Yes, I have (my past sins have been just as grievous, no doubt, yet maybe not so adventuresome), and I agree with you. In addition to participating in the sacraments frequently, we carry with us the sacramentals; the miraculous medal (of which we hand out to others or place in the yards of those who are having difficulties with their health, or marriage, etc.) and the brown scapular. We also try to keep our holy water fonts filled, and chalk the 20+C+M+B+10 over our doors, and so on ...

P.S. Someone in our area has the license plate "CHOICE" (it's a bit unnerving to see) so, while parked and in a restaurant, we gave her the MM treatment. We put one on top of her car.:)
9 posted on 05/04/2010 8:21:11 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Salvation
This was one of my biggest fears with my last two children in high school. So scary.

I hear ya Salvation. I wanted so much to homeschool our kids, but my health wasn't anywhere near the level to do so. They seem to be doing okay, but I sure wish my prayers could get our sons back in the pews with frequence. I must remain patient, pray and trust (so says my confessor).
10 posted on 05/04/2010 8:30:40 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: J Edgar
Satan is real. Satanism is real. Read “The Franklin Coverup” and you will see just how far up it has reach into the Corporate and Government worlds! Pray, Pray, Pray is all I can say.

Yes, I've read a little about that. Pure evil! I read a line in a book a long time ago that said if you knew all the evils going on in the world at any particular moment, you would perish on the spot. A priest we know changed that to knowing all the evils just on your own block ... Gotta keep praying as you say ...
11 posted on 05/04/2010 8:44:27 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy

I wear a scapulur and St Benedict Medal myself.


12 posted on 05/04/2010 10:00:31 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: mlizzy

The most wonderful line, to me, in the Our Father, is “Thy Will Be Done.”

As far as I’ve learned over the decades, sin is about “my will” — in opposition to God’s Will. Instant gratification, feelgood temptations, the lure of power, just about any sin I can think of involves setting up our own desires, wishes, wants, impulses, whims, greed, yearnings, against what we know is right, prudent, honest, healthy, honorable, kind.

A life free of demonic infestation cannot be guaranteed. Prayers, fasting, sacrifice, with prudent care of the body, the prayers of friends, frequent reception of the sacraments, making use of the appropriate sacramentals — these help us all to focus our attention on “Thy Will Be Done.” There is no peace like prayers softly prayed in love with the beautiful Savior.


13 posted on 05/04/2010 10:44:38 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: mlizzy

Plus, this is also a reminder to our Protestant brothers and sisters that when it comes to really bad demonic infestations/possesions, call in the big guns, a Roman Catholic priest who is trained to be able to do that! In other words, simply praying for delieverence is not enough!


14 posted on 05/05/2010 4:06:45 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: mlizzy; Outership

SERIOUS STUFF, for sure.

Led Zepplin et al are certainly a root to demonic oppression and possession.


15 posted on 05/05/2010 4:22:34 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mlizzy

Also remember Its the belief and trust of our Faith that Christ came in the Flesh meaning the divine became human which I know you or I as Catholics or Any true Christian Protestant which believe The Apostles creed or Nicene creed. Thats In” 1 John chapter 4” christian requirement. But like a Mormon does say the” Our Father or Lord’s Prayer “too in wording but do not acknowledge Christ in the Flesh its a hollow prayer for them. You know I listen to Christian music sometimes or around the Holidays, when the Handels Messiah comes on the radio I can tell if its from The Mormon Tabernacle Choir with out looking for info. The Holy Spirit shows me its hollow. Its like Holy Spirit sense. Sometimes I can sense this with people in the occult without knowing them.


16 posted on 05/05/2010 7:59:48 AM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace

I read the Harry Potter books. Their approach to magic is, at best, simple minded. I don’t see how they can do much damage.

The problem is not the “occult material” lying around, but the lack of God and the Church in the early life of children. I like occult fiction. However, none of it challenges my faith. Of course, from my earliest memories, my family always attended Church and I attend it now that I’m adult - and my daughters attend with me.


17 posted on 05/05/2010 8:37:29 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Biggirl; johngrace
Plus, this is also a reminder to our Protestant brothers and sisters that when it comes to really bad demonic infestations/possesions, call in the big guns, a Roman Catholic priest who is trained to be able to do that! In other words, simply praying for delieverence is not enough!

"Call in the big guns" indeed. According to this article, it looks like we have one of the 17 official Church exorcists right here in Chicago. Maybe he can work on ... well, er, never mind ...

Have you ever read about Bobby Jindal's involvement in an exorcism? Although a Catholic priest was not in attendance and Jindal was quite young, but still concerned about that issue, I wonder how strong his faith is currently, because we sure could use someone of the following mindset to help our battle today ...
I could not pray to God. I tried as hard as I could, but I couldn't. Out of desperation, I called upon the saints to articulate my prayers and rescue me from this living nightmare. Though I had never prayed with the saints before, I began to understand the Church's teaching of the unity within the One Body. I pleaded with the saints in Heaven to offer God the prayers I was unable to formulate.

Even I felt confident enough to approach God once again; Susan's lunge for the door awakened and invigorated me. Strangely, I found myself repeating the Hail Mary until it became a chant. Being a recent convert to Catholicism, I had yet to accept the Catholic doctrines concerning Mary and considered any form of Marian devotion to be idolatry. Though I had never before prayed a Hail Mary in my life, I suddenly found myself incapable of any other form of prayer. Somehow, Mary's intercessions allowed me to find peace during that long night; I knew that I had survived the worst and that I would exit with my faith intact. It terrified me to recall how close I came to turning away from Christ out of fear.

I left that classroom with a powerful belief in Mary's intercessions and with many questions about spiritual warfare; I also learned a lasting lesson in humility and the limits of human understanding. Was the purpose of that night served when so many individuals were inducted into the Church? Did I witness spiritual warfare? I do not have the answers, but I do believe in the reality of spirits, angels, and other related phenomena that I can neither touch nor see. -- Physical Dimensions of Spiritual Warfare, December 1994, By Bobby Jindal/New Oxford Review

18 posted on 05/05/2010 8:52:02 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Little Ray

I think if we have spiritual discernment someone can say what you just commented. Maybe but what about the children. You do know the books are highly favored by the Children. They could pretend their way to the powers of hell. What so good about this risk. Why do it. The Vatican exorcist is against it. He knows the enemy better than most. There is now a pink ouji board does that make it kosher. The Devil is on the prowl. To DECEIVE. I mean you should have a healthy spiritual balance. Everything from the enemy comes with a half truth GENESIS 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You [1] shall not eat of any tree in the garden? and the rest is history to our detriment.


19 posted on 05/05/2010 9:05:00 AM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace

Ouji boards are a different animal. Pink or not, when you use it, you’re inviting something in... Not a good thing to do. We had one when I was a kid. I never played with it and I think it quickly disappeared. There is not one in my house and never will be.

Otherwise, kids can pretend all they want. Waving wands and spouting nonsense is as harmless as pointing a toy gun (or a finger) and going “bang!” (And doesn’t get you in trouble with hoplophobic school administrations...)

Get the kids baptized, get them in Church early, do your best teach them right and wrong (and good marksmanship), and things will generally go well.


20 posted on 05/05/2010 9:21:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: mlizzy

I had no idea Bobby Jindal had an experience like that. The book sounds very interesting.


21 posted on 05/05/2010 9:26:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
The most wonderful line, to me, in the Our Father, is “Thy Will Be Done.” As far as I’ve learned over the decades, sin is about “my will” — in opposition to God’s Will. Instant gratification, feelgood temptations, the lure of power, just about any sin I can think of involves setting up our own desires, wishes, wants, impulses, whims, greed, yearnings, against what we know is right, prudent, honest, healthy, honorable, kind. A life free of demonic infestation cannot be guaranteed. Prayers, fasting, sacrifice, with prudent care of the body, the prayers of friends, frequent reception of the sacraments, making use of the appropriate sacramentals — these help us all to focus our attention on “Thy Will Be Done.” There is no peace like prayers softly prayed in love with the beautiful Savior.

Beautiful comment, Judith Anne ...
22 posted on 05/05/2010 9:26:32 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: johngrace

Yes, parents have to keep a VERY, very good watch on their kids. When I was in my early teens (1963-64), we played this “game” where a person lies on the floor on their back and six people surround them (3 to a side). They take just two fingers (the two index ones) with their hands folded otherwise in prayer, and place them under the person lying down. They then “concentrate” very hard (and we, of course, are in a “dark” room with candles), and then we all try to lift the person steadily and high up. A few times, we were able to do it with ease. None of us knew this had anything to do with “spirits.” We all just thought it was “fun.” Well, soon enough, we were inviting boys to these gatherings and the games took a raunchy-ish turn, etc. and so on.


23 posted on 05/05/2010 9:48:53 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy

To be fair I do not think thats an absolute rule. Maybe more effective for that moment. The Vatican exorcist has acknowledge that Some independent church people have helped the possessed. Smith Wigglesworth ,Walter Martin and others have exorcised victims from the enemy too. I have read many accounts of Protestant or Catholic exorcisms. Even Martin Luther. The common theme that all have are in the 1 JOHN 4 requirement- Christ came as a human{ In The Flesh}. A pure spirit can not say he was in the flesh as Divinity ,our Lord will not allow it. Because Of this verse“ and of judgment, Because the PRINCE of this WORLD has already been Judged” (Jn 16: 7-11). You and I are not judged this side of eternity until we die. We can maybe waver because we are not pure spirit yet and may God guide us to the Hour of our death. I have encountered a friend in the occult who thought she was a christian but could not declare 1 John 4. Very troubling. I truly believe this is how the Vatican declares a vision is real. Especially When Our Lady Says the Apostles Creed or Gloria in full or like because a pure spirit with God can only say it. There are some so called Mary visions that do not declare it. I believe the Vatican keeps this a secret in their process when questioning the witnesses, I am not sure of course but its in scripture never the less. But for the reason that we have not been judged the witness to the vision can lie about what he witnessed. If he does not mention about that requirement it should be highly suspect in my opinion. But I hope this gives you insight.


24 posted on 05/05/2010 10:01:05 AM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace
Well, I tell ya, John, the woman that Bobby Jindal and her friends were praying for (sans priest) evidently had her demons expelled, and she was completely cured from cancer too (a miracle, happenstance, or good "doctoring"?)

Interesting about the Apostles Creed or Gloria ...
25 posted on 05/05/2010 10:19:25 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: johngrace
I wear a scapulur and St Benedict Medal myself.

You don't see many wearing the scapular these days at all. But yesterday I went swimming, and I went to grab the final things in my locker, and I was about to reach for my brown scapular, but lo and behold, saw that it was another woman's instead. It made me smile, and she smiled back when she saw the rosary in my hand. Anyway, here's a post by DH that you might like:

The Miraculous Medal: My Favorite Sacramental
26 posted on 05/05/2010 10:25:05 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Judith Anne
I had no idea Bobby Jindal had an experience like that.

We went to purchase an older book of Jindal's at Barnes and Noble last week, but they didn't have *anything* by Jindal. But I see that in July he has a new release:

Real Hope, Real Change: New Conservative Solutions to Rescue America

Within the Product Description, it states:
Blending his personal story, including his conversion to Christianity and his unprecedented political career, with an account of his local and national governmental successes, Jindal offers a bold vision for renewing the GOP and our nation.

27 posted on 05/05/2010 10:29:37 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy

bump to the top


28 posted on 05/05/2010 10:39:56 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: mlizzy

My mother always wore that medal. The priest gave me a scapular after confession last november.


29 posted on 05/05/2010 11:02:29 AM PDT by johngrace
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To: mlizzy

THIS IS FROM AN OLD BOOK I FOUND ON GOOGLE BOOKS TRULY A RARITY -THE SPIRITUAL FAVOURS OBTAINED BY THE USE OF THE MEDAL.
The greater number of favours obtained during our own times, by means of St. Benedict’s medal, have reference to the instantaneous conversion of sinners, who had been callous to all that had previously been tried, in order to bring them to God. We will mention a few of these instances.
In a provincial town of France, there was living a gentleman in very comfortable circumstances, who had once held a Government appointment. His sister, an exceedingly pious widowed lady, nursed him with the most affectionate care during his frequent attacks of illness, but was, above all, most anxious to induce her dear brother to think upon doing something for his salvation. Hitherto, all her efforts had been fruitless. No matter how gentle or indirect her attempts, they were all met with this cold answer, “Do not talk to me about seeing a priest: I cannot bear to hear the subject mentioned.” The sister went, at last, to a friend, and told him in confidence of her trouble, and he said to her, “ Pay no attention to your brother’s
answer; persevere in your entreaties. If by your silence you suffer him to fall into hell, he would surely not excuse you.” In this wav several years elapsed.
In the December of 1846, after a short illness, there were evidences of gangrene; the doctors not only pronounced such to be the case, but moreover, that an operation would be useless, and finally, that the sick man could not live two days longer. The friend who had advised the sister not to be deterred by the words of her brother, one day came to see her. She was overwhelmed with grief, but declared, that not even now, had she the courage to put the question to him. “ Well, then,” says the friend, “ take these two medals of St. Benedict: keep one for yourself that the devil may not hinder you from doing your duty, and put the other under your brother’s pillow.” She took his advice, and five minutes had scarcely passed, when the following conversation took place between the brother and sister:—” Dear sister!” said the sick man. “ Well, brother, what is it?” “My dear sister, do you not think it would be right to send for the priest?” The priest was accordingly sent for, and soon arrived: the sick man received him with joy, and all the rites of the Church were administered. Two days after he died in the most edifying dispositions.
In 1854, in an hospital of incurables, there was a woman advanced in years, who was almost entirely paralysed, and quite bedridden. With no more religion about her than that of an impious lunatic, she would utter at times such disgusting language and such horrid blasphemies, that many persons looked upon her as one possessed by the devil. There were reasons for suspecting that she kept near her certain articles, which prompted her to all this wickedness. It happened that on a day, when the ward had to undergo a thorough cleaning, she was obliged to be taken from her bed, and put for the time in a room near at hand. She screamed, or rather howled, with rage, but she was obliged to yield. The nuns of the hospital found under the mattress a bag filled with objects of a most suspicious character. They took it away, and put in its place a medal of St. Benedict. In an hour or so the poor woman was carried back to her bed, without of course being told of what had been done. Scarcely, however, did she come near the bed than she began to abuse the sisters for having taken away her treasure, of which no doubt the devil took care to tell her. In spite of all this, she was laid on the bed, when suddenly her screaming ceased, and she became as quiet as a lamb. The hideous look she ordinarily put on was changed into one of joy. The poor creature then asked for a priest. A few days after the infirmary was arranged as a chapel, prettily lit up, and flowers placed here and there, to receive our Lord, who was coming to. comfort and cure this soul, now set free, like a captive bird, from the snares of hell.
In 1859, a poor woman was telling her troubles to a person, who knew something of the efficacy, with which our Lord has enriched the medal of St. Benedict. Her husband, though a clever workman, was a great drunkard. All they earned was regularly spent at the end of the week, and, of course, there was nothing in the house but wretchedness. The person to whom she spoke gave her one of the medals, advising her to touch with it the bottle of wine, which she put before her husband at meals, though she herself was obliged to be satisfied with water. When he had tasted the wine, he exclaimed, “What wretched stuff! give me some water, for it is better than such wine as this. I will make up for it after.” When he had finished his dinner, he made his wife give him some money, and went to his old place, the neighbouring publichouse, from which he was always accustomed to come back home, late at night, intoxicated. In about a quarter of an hour he came home, telling his wife that he was sure this was a plot against him, for the wine at the tavern was worse than their own. It was a happy night for both. Next day, and the next few days, water was the only beverage the poor man could bear to touch. When this much was gained, his wife, who was an excellent Christian, had not much difficulty in persuading him to fulfil henceforward his religious duties.
In the same year, 1859, at T , there was a
woman, eighty years old, who had declared that she was determined to die without going to confession; it was upwards of sixty years since she had been to the Sacraments. The priest, who was asked by a friend to visit her, was prepared for a refusal. A medal was put into the priest’s hand, and the person who gave it to him said, “ Go, and fear not.” On his entering her room, the old lady turned her face towards the wall, saying aloud that she intended going to sleep. “ Do so,” replied the priest, “ but take this medal, I beg of you, and meanwhile I will say a little prayer.” He knelt down by the bedside, and before he had time to finish the Memorare, the old lady turned towards him, told her relatives to leaye the room, and began her confession.
Ort the 14th of March, 1859, a pious layman happened to meet in the street a priest, who was much distressed about a young man of seventeen who had come home from Paris so ill, that the doctor was of opinion that he could not live many days. The priest had been three times to the house, but the family would not receive him. The layman on hearing this, spoke to him about the wonderful efficacy of St. Benedict’s medal, gave him one, and encouraged him to make another trial. The priest went, and at first met with the same reception. He then brought forth the medal, which he said he wished to give to the young man. “ Oh, if that is all,” said the person, who was speaking to him, “ you may come in.” Finally, he got into the room of the young man, who no sooner saw him than he hid his face in the bedclothes. “ My dear friend,” said the priest, “ accept this little present from me.” Immediately he uncovered his face, and began his confession with the most admirable sentiments of contrition.
The medal or cross of St. Benedict: its origin, meaning, and privileges By Prosper Guéranger


30 posted on 05/05/2010 11:17:03 AM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace
St. John VianneyMy mother always wore that medal. The priest gave me a scapular after confession last november.

I don't even know your mother (other than what you've told me about her), but I like her quite a bit! :):) Do you know of this story in regard to St. John Vianney and the Miraculous Medal?
I will mention just one extraordinary fact that reveals his gift of reading souls – the discernment of spirits – that he had. This fact was reported by one of his penitents, a young lady who was a Daughter of Mary. She went to confession to the Curé of Ars. After she knelt, he began to tell her events from her past life.

- Do you remember that you went to a ball on such-and-such occasion?

- Yes, I remember.

- Do you remember that at a certain moment a handsome young man entered the ballroom. He was quite elegant, appeared very upright and danced with several young ladies?

- Yes, I do.

- Do you recall that you had a great desire to dance with him?

- I recall that.

- Do you recollect that you became sad because he didn’t ask you to dance?

- Yes, I do.

- Do you remember that by chance you looked down at his feet and saw a strange blue light coming from them?

- Yes. I remember.

Until now, everything he described to the young lady came from his gift of discernment, because naturally he knew nothing of her past. Then, he made the astonishing revelation:

- That young man was none other than the devil who had taken that shape to tempt several of the young women there. He was unable to approach you because you are a Daughter of Mary protected by her, and you were wearing the Miraculous Medal.

31 posted on 05/05/2010 11:22:52 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: johngrace

HERE”S MORE ON AN CHAPTER VI.
THE MIRACULOUS EFFECTS OF THE MEDAL OF ST. BENEDICT IN THE SEVENTEENTH CENTURY.
Though the medal of St. Benedict has been given to the faithful as a protection in the various necessities in which they may be at any time placed, yet as its use is only private, and almost always secret, we cannot be surprised that there has never been published an official account of the salutary effects it has produced. We are going, however, to mention some few facts which attested its powerful efficacy during the seventeenth century, the period of its first introduction into France. We take them from the pious and learned Bucelin, in his “ Benedictus Redivivus “ (Veldkirk, 1679, PP- 267-269).
The medal, which had become well known throughout Germany after the event at Nattremberg, passed into France through the province of Franche-Comtd.
In 1665, at Luxeuil in France, a young man possessed by the wicked spirit was most cruelly tormented. His parents had employed every means to free him from this state, but all had failed. In this extremity it came into their minds to have recourse to the medal of St. Benedict. They made their son drink some water into which they had dipped the medal. Scarcely had the boy raised the cup to his lips, than the devil began to torment his victim with such unusual violence, that the bystanders were struck with terror. The parents, however, were consoled by hearing the devil declare, by the mouth of their son, that he felt himself controlled by a superior power, and that he would go out of the boy at the third hour of the night. So in effect it happened : the infernal spirit went out at the time mentioned, and the boy was restored to peace of mind and health of body.
The following fact took place at Luxeuil about the same time. A young girl was irresistibly compelled by the wicked spirit to utter, at every turn, the most obscene words. One would have thought that the devil had taken up his abode on the lips of his victim. In order to free her from this violence of the enemy of every virtue, her friends gave her also, some water to , drink which had been sanctified by contact with the medal of St. Benedict. Immediately she felt herself freed from this wretched compulsion, nor did she ever after transgress in her words the rules of Christian modesty.
The same year, 1665, there was a man who had a sore on his arm, but so large and so inflamed, that no remedy seemed to have any effect on it. It was suggested that the next time the sore was dressed, there should be also tied on his arm a medal of St. Benedict. This was done, and the next day, on taking off the bandages, the sore was found to be in a healthy state, and after a few days was perfectly healed.

About the same time, another sick man was reduced to such a state that nothing seemed to give him relief, and he was despaired of. In this sad condition, he asked to be given to drink some water in which the medal of St. Benedict had been dipped, and very soon afterwards he was restored to perfect health.
In the year 1666, the castle of Maillot, not many miles from Besanc_on, was infested by devils. Its inmates were being continually alarmed by hearing strange noises, and numbers of their cattle were dying from unknown distempers. At length, such was the terror, that the building was abandoned. Some pious persons recommended the medal of St. Benedict being hung up here and there on the walls of the castle, and the event justified their conf1dence. Instantly all cause of fear disappeared, the house was perfectly quiet, and the inmates lived in it henceforth without being molested.
In 1665, a village of Lorraine was being laid waste by frequent fires. Every day some house was burnt down, and no one could discover any cause for these destructive fires. After twelve houses had been thus destroyed, the inhabitants went in despair to a neighbouring monastery, and asked what they had better do under this calamity. The monks gave them several medals of St. Benedict, advising them to hang them on the walls of the houses which were still spared. The villagers followed this advice, and from that time they had no more cause to fear further ravages from fire.
In a certain part of Burgundy a distemper broke out amongst the cattle, and so virulent was it, that the cows gave blood instead of milk. They were perfectly cured on being made to drink water into which the medal of St. Benedict had been put. This fact happened in the same year, 1665.
The owner of a brick-kiln complained of not being able to bake the clay, no matter how intensely the kiln was heated. A medal of St. Benedict was fastened to the wall; the fire immediately regained its power, nor did the unnatural phenomenon again appear. This event happened about the same year as the The medal or cross of St. Benedict: its origin, meaning, and privileges By Prosper Guéranger


32 posted on 05/05/2010 11:28:24 AM PDT by johngrace
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Wow, thanks! Great stories, and this, for whatever reason, made me laugh:
With no more religion about her than that of an impious lunatic, she would utter at times such disgusting language and such horrid blasphemies ...
Seems I should of had the St. Benedict medal in regards to my mother (she died in August of 08), but the Miraculous Medal worked a bit of a miracle as well. "Murph," an LLL (life-long Lutheran) had a certain hatred for the Catholic Church as long as I can remember, but when I converted, it was indeed more pronounced. Anyway, I had miraculous medals and the brown scapular on her bed and side table (my siblings weren't real thrilled with this), and days before her death she allowed a Catholic priest my husband and I hailed (a Catholic Church was *coincidentally* no more than a few yards away from the tiny hospital she was in) to bless her with oils. I'm not sure what impact that had, but a day or so later (hours before she died), she agonizingly rolled over in her bed, looked at me and smiled, while she "mouthed" (she was on a ventilator) the words "I love you, too" to me ... (for the very first time ever).
33 posted on 05/05/2010 11:55:31 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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WHY DID YOU POST THAT? YOU KNOW WHY I HAD AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPEN YEARS AGO ,IT WAS TERRIBLE BUT THE TELLTALE SIGN WAS THE STRANGE BLUE LIGHT LIKE THAT STORY. WHICH I PRAYED TO GOD FOR AN ANSWER. HE BROUGHT ME TO THAT SAME STORY! AMAZING! I READ A BOOK ONLINE AND ARTICLES ABOUT ST JOHN VIANNEY


34 posted on 05/05/2010 12:16:32 PM PDT by johngrace
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IT WAS TERRIBLE BUT THE TELLTALE SIGN WAS THE STRANGE BLUE LIGHT ...

Interesting ... we are on the SAME wavelength ... I'd love to hear your story (maybe?!!) on the blue light ...
35 posted on 05/05/2010 12:20:30 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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WOW THATS AMAZING! THE OIL PUT ON ON AN ACT OF FAITH THEN SHE IS FORGIVEN TOTALLY!“Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven” (James 5:14-15, NKJV).


36 posted on 05/05/2010 12:23:33 PM PDT by johngrace
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WOW THATS AMAZING! THE OIL PUT ON ON AN ACT OF FAITH THEN SHE IS FORGIVEN TOTALLY!

Thanks! My agnostic brother said, "Oh, everyone says stuff like that when they are dying." I'd like to think there was more to it than that.:)
37 posted on 05/05/2010 1:40:28 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Quix

Demons can use anything to oppress and possess. As you can see by responses to this thread, idolatry and blasphemy can be found even among those that profess a knowledge of spiritual things. Both are a great way for demons to do their work. The company Apple and its products also promote idolatry.

Music can sometimes put the mind into an emotional experience. How and where that experience goes really depends on the person listening to it. And of course, a person won’t listen to music that gives them a bad emotional experience (like immoral music). Making your own music is the best way to go.

I don’t think I have heard more than two or three songs by Led Zeppelin, but I hear that their artistry with instrument playing is top notch. If you are a musician, you like that sort of thing. I have heard their song “Fool in the Rain” and I kind of like it. They don’t play my kind of music though, so I don’t feel much for them.

I see video games are getting kicked again. It is only two or three of those that I see as bringing out the evil in folk. You cannot seriously look at Mario, Zelda, et al and see demons. Almost all video games are of the ‘defeat the monsters and save the world’ idea. If you ask me, video games are the last refuge for people looking for moral entertainment these days (as a caveat here, board/card/tabletop role-playing games are still superior, but few people know enough people to play those, whereby video games can be played alone). They are apolitical (yes, you heard it right, there is actually still an activity that is not leftist propaganda), devoid of sex, devoid of foul language, devoid of images of amoral behavior. Unless you consider punching blocks and stomping on turtles as evil. I can’t understand you if you do though. The people that say “video games are evil” have never even seen one. Each video game is as unique as a novel.

Television shows and movies that are out now are SEEPED in sexual immorality, scatological humor, dishonoring of parents, and every kind of foul behavior. This is because 100% of them now are leftist. You have to go back at least to the 80s to find a decent movie or show. The further back, the better. Pop stars’ lives are seeped in evil, their songs seeped in sex. “Urban” music is seeped in evil, the people who make it live in evil. Not having a TV get’s rid of this problem. (Novels are all unique and can go either way at any time.) This behavior exists because people today have no self control or self respect. Both those things only come from being Christian. The enemy has raised up non-Christians to be “stars”. There are no more Christians in entertainment.

It is better to not school your child at all than to send them to Public School. Wish more people would take child rearing seriously. Keep them out of strangers’ hands like you would keep them away from pedophile priests.

Reading about wizards may lead to an interest in the occult and it may not. Is alchemy even sorcery? Or is it just pseudo/quack chemistry? You have to seriously delude yourself to believe Wicca or Voodoo actually gives you supernatural powers. Sure if you are performing rituals/praying to demons or dead people for powers or favors then that is bad. In almost all cases, if this is even present at all, it is the wizard’s enemy that is doing this, i.e. the bad guy. In storytelling, wizards are just another form of superhero. Some people love the idea of being a vampire or werewolf or other superhero archetype due to fantasies of being free from human fallenness. I don’t know if this is sinful. Who hasn’t wished they could fly? I like stories about wizards. It’s just pretend. For a little while you can pretend that you can do anything. Doesn’t mean I would ever perform a magical ceremony or take part in one. The enemy doesn’t really need wizard books to get people to do that though.

The real problem with demons is that they effect your life in the way a “ghost” would. Breaking things. Moving things. Making sounds. Being ‘seen’. Influencing those who have power over you to show you no mercy. They make evil people more evil. If they are in you, they cause serious limitations to your ability to function. Take a look at the man in the Bible who had “Legion” in him. He was so unable to live that he had to spend his life ranting and raving, cutting himself, and living in a graveyard. Everyone wanted to chain him up and do who knows what. He was a ‘monster’. Demons make you not in your right mind. People call this “emo” or mental illness now, but they have no idea what it is really about. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes it *is* due to physical injury or malformation. Those that have a life filled with demons do their best to gravitate to things that relieve their suffering. They may find it in music or stories that deal with freedom from human fallenness. But one does not create the other, and vice versa. You don’t need to read Twilight to have demon troubles, and reading Twilight doesn’t cause you to have them. May cause other suffering though, I hear mixed reviews.


38 posted on 05/05/2010 1:43:20 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: Little Ray

You have it exactly right.


39 posted on 05/05/2010 1:44:40 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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To: mlizzy
Yes, I believe you are Correcto Mundo. This is also why I believe WWIII and God's World Chastisement is close at hand.
If US Government turns on Israel, God will punish us severely. Europe is going to pay for abandoning the Faith. IMHO
40 posted on 05/05/2010 2:14:18 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar
Yes, I believe you are Correcto Mundo. This is also why I believe WWIII and God's World Chastisement is close at hand. If US Government turns on Israel, God will punish us severely. Europe is going to pay for abandoning the Faith. IMHO

Yes, I agree with you too. The turn against Israel is troubling. I am reminded one day while at the computer, I noticed a little wind outside. Within seconds really, my daughter rushed out of her room, saying the sirens were blaring (I can't hear so well:)). I went for my keys to move my car out to the front because of this huge old Elm in our back yard, and fortunately for me, it took me a few seconds to find the keys, because by the time I opened the back door there was the Elm, right in front of me, literally wrapped around the house. Once He decides what He's going to do, there will be little time to react; now is the time for prayer and conversion ... as you well know ...
41 posted on 05/05/2010 2:32:12 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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WOW I’m glad you are Ok, and yes it will happen unexpectedly and quickly I believe!


42 posted on 05/05/2010 2:39:49 PM PDT by J Edgar
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WE SHOULD ALSO REMEMBER THIS Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Exodus 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.

Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Deuteronomy 19:16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.
21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 12:17 He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.

Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

Proverbs 14:25 A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.

Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.

Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.

Proverbs 19:28 An ungodly witness scorneth judgment: and the mouth of the wicked devoureth iniquity.

Proverbs 21:28 A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.

Proverbs 24:28 Be not a witness against thy neighbour without cause; and deceive not with thy lips.

Proverbs 25:18 A man that beareth false witness against his neighbour is a maul, and a sword, and a sharp arrow.

Matthew 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
THIS YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBERHOOD PAPIST, ROMANIST STILL SWIMMING THE TIBER COME ON IN THE WATERS FINE!!! JUST REMEMBER TO LIVE THOU COMMANDMENTS PROPERLY IF WE ARE TO JUDGE CORRECTLY!!! HELLOOOOOOOOO GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR TOM!!! ARE YOU LISTENING MAJOR TOM!!!!

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43 posted on 05/05/2010 2:54:44 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace

Thanks for the Holy Scripture! Your Bible must be as worn out as my husband’s is ... :):)


44 posted on 05/05/2010 3:07:58 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy

YOU KNOW YOU GOT ME. EITHER YOUR COMPLEMENTING ME AND YOUR HUSBAND OR VICE VERSA


45 posted on 05/05/2010 3:12:23 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace

The compliment was to my DH *and* you, John! :):) Birds of a feather sort of thing ...


46 posted on 05/05/2010 3:16:27 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy

OH WELL THANKS


47 posted on 05/05/2010 3:47:28 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace
Corapi_Euteneuer
This would be fun to go to ...
48 posted on 05/05/2010 4:16:10 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Outership

VERY EXCELLENT POINTS.

THX.

Heading to bed soonish.


49 posted on 05/05/2010 9:32:28 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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