But that stuff was why I was suggesting killing the thread.
NAMBLA? Onanism? Before lunch?
it’s all chaff.
some of it is noisey chaff.
Chaff is inconsequential.
There will be folks doing all manner of lewd things on the sidwalk on the way to wherever one is traveling in the not too distant future.
I’m NOT suggesting we need to become immune to being grieved over sin.
I am suggesting that we aren’t close to the level of shock and awe that’s coming from hell.
NAMBLA is HYPER-HIDEOUS.
I don’t see much fruitfulness in going very far with a Rel Forum discussion about that. Any serious authentic Christian rejects such stuff from before the beginning about it.
I suppose an argument could be made about some name only RC politicos protecting such orgs and individuals—likely true in Mass or some such.
However, I don’t see even that argument fruitfully going very far.
Sure, the hierarchy is hypocritical for not expunging such politicos from the ranks vs meeting publically with them and giving them official funerals etc.
Yes, I am quite happy to allow death bed confessions etc. I’d think that a public confession should be made at the beginning of a funeral in such cases. The priest or family members ought to be able to honestly and accurately assert that the person repented convincingly re XYZ summarized specifics and sought forgiveness of God and man prior to their death.
Anyway—I’d think it would be a short thread not worth a lot of heat and probably not yielding tons of light.
I think with a LOT of stuff . . . the self-righteous & prissy will always tend to be prissy and all fussed up about making majors out of minors and minors out of majors.
Thoughtful folks will, with some wisdom and discernment spit out the bones and learn what may be learnable and worth learning and walk on by.
. . . virtually . . . regardless . . . of a LOT of other factors and variables.