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What happens to the soul of a jew upon death
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Posted on 05/16/2010 5:24:35 PM PDT by lovesdogs

My neighbor was buried today. He was a Jewish man of devout faith. Now mind you he was no saint, he had his share of issues just like anyone else. But in his later years, he became much more involved in the temple and study of the Torah. His Rabbi was at his home every other day and sometimes every day for study and company.

I looked all over for an answer to this question and I cannot find it. My friend did not accept Christ as his savior. As a Jew he did not accept Christian belief. Can anyone help me with what will happen to his soul? Will my prayer help? I have no experience with this sort of thing and I am heartbroken with the loss of this good man.


TOPICS: Judaism; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: afterlife; judaism
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To: lovesdogs

In my understanding, the belief is that they are gathered unto their people in Sheol just as was the case with the Old Testament Patriarchs. There are levels of Sheol, from “Abraham’s Bosom” which is paradise, for the Godliest people, on down to the depths of Sheol where the rebellious angels were bound, very dark and populated with demons and torment. That’s the Jewish belief, imho.

As far as I have been able to gather, Sheol is at least partially cognate with the Catholic purgatory, but I’m sure I’ll be corrected if that is a mistaken conclusion.

Contemplating it from a Protestant Christian perspective would be different. The souls of the Godly were led out of Sheol by Jesus Christ at the Resurrection, in Protestant belief, leaving the depths of Sheol as Hell. As far as what happens after death, on the one hand, Biblically speaking, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, but on the other, death is regarded as “soul sleep” by other Protestants with Biblical justification as well. I can only rectify the two by concluding that time doesn’t exist in a linear fashion for those who have passed on, and being dead for a thousand years is as a day, that flexible meaning of “yom” that gets bandied about on creationist-evolutionist debate threads. And so, in the perceptions of the dead, having had no perception since the soul is in the blood Biblically speaking, there will have been no time between death and their own (our own) resurrections as well. That’s speculation based upon several different understandings, all Biblically grounded. The truth is the truth, and the Bible is truth, so there can be no conflict, imho.

I’ve contemplated upon the Protestant belief moreso because all my loved ones who have passed on have been Protestant, and I myself am not Roman Catholic or Jewish but am Christian, so that’s the theological framework I’ve pondered.

A more ecumenical belief, abstracted from particular teachings of Jews or Catholics or Protestants, is based upon the many instances of near death experience, wherein living individuals report floating upward and seeing their bodies, and being drawn into a light, full of peace and love, and encountering loved ones and eventually a radiant being. Some say that this could be delusion, others find great comfort in the idea of a warm, loving and peaceful reception. There are near death experiences that are decidedly darker, and so perhaps it’s a genuine thing and not delusion, I just can’t say. I try my best to stick to the Bible on such matters, you can’t go wrong there.

Pray upon it, if you’re troubled by it. Sounds as if you might be. Seek out the peace of the Lord.


101 posted on 05/16/2010 6:35:29 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Amberdawn
Although I am a Christian, I feel it is incumbent upon us to respect the beliefs of others IF THEY DO NO HARM. Your friend seems to have led a largely decent life and paid due respect to the Creator and His laws. My view is to accept what others believe, as HOW people worship is more important than WHO they worship.

Respectfully, Christianity is a faith of razor-thin exclusivity. Jesus made it very clear that faith in Him and Him alone was the gateway to eternal life. He also said this would be offensive to many, a "stumbling block". As far as living a "decent life", none of us will live a life "decent enough" to earn the right to eternal life in God's presence. Our only hope is the righteousness of Christ, which He gives as a free gift to those who place their faith in Him. The belief system you are espousing would best be classified as Universalist, not Christianity.
102 posted on 05/16/2010 6:35:48 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: papabrody

What is the Judaic belief about the soul and what happens at death? I’ve looked a bit but never really found out.

I am asking in all sincerity.


103 posted on 05/16/2010 6:37:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: lovesdogs

“What happens to the soul of a jew upon death?”

His soul stops voting for 0bama.


104 posted on 05/16/2010 6:37:44 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: The_Sword_of_Groo

I guess ignorance knows no bounds.

Actually, the Old Coveanant is still in force - if you don’t know Jesus - because if you’re born again, that would put you under the New Covenant; a better covenant with better promises.

If somebody can provide me with a scripture which gets rid of the Old Covenant .. I’d like to know it .. because I never could find one.


105 posted on 05/16/2010 6:38:07 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Is Obama the Manchurian President ..??)
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To: real saxophonist

I had a couple of friends who were Messianic Jews. They absolutely do not consider themselves Christians, that’s for Gentiles.


106 posted on 05/16/2010 6:40:04 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: bruinbirdman
No one has ever complained afterward.

Allow me a bit of editorial license here....

"I've never heard one complain afterward."

≤}B^)

107 posted on 05/16/2010 6:40:52 PM PDT by Erasmus (Looks like we're between a lithic outcropping and a region of low compressibility.)
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To: Ann Archy
Here's my take....Non Christians that are good people that have never heard about Jesus will have a type of heaven but They will NOT have JESUS or the SAINTS with them.

Ann, if I remember from your previous posts, you profess to be a Catholic. What you stated above is not consistent with the Catholic faith.
108 posted on 05/16/2010 6:42:32 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: magritte

It just seems that if you believe that there are many roads to God, there is no point to sending missionaries out. Why bother?

But it seems from your response you think the way of salvation is following the Torah.


109 posted on 05/16/2010 6:45:48 PM PDT by Persevero (If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes?)
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To: Venturer
I cannot tell you what will happen, only what I believe, Good people are rewarded with heaven and bad go to hell.

What is your definition of "good"?. Do you think it is the same as God's?
110 posted on 05/16/2010 6:47:37 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: armydoc

The Pope said not too long ago (pretty sure it was Pope Benedict - time does pass more quickly now) that (very loose paraphrasing) believers who are sincere will be rewarded even if they are not Catholics or Christians in general.


111 posted on 05/16/2010 6:48:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: lovesdogs

Just ignore people who say he’s comdemned. The man you know, does he deserve hell? It’s funny, some people act like God’s prosecuting attorneys, quoting verse like it was state law. Yet they somehow manage to miss “judge not”, “like a thief in the night”, and “woman, where are your accusers?”,,,, etc,,,

Jesus is about forgiveness,,, And he seemed to always manage to give his grace to lots of people that the pious always managed to expel, imprison, judge, physically torture, and generally make life even more miserable for.

Your buddy is with God.


112 posted on 05/16/2010 6:48:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: CyberAnt
I'm ignorant because I made a joke? Fwiw I agree with you. I know of no scripture that invalidates God's covenant with Jews. I am certainly counting on God upholding his covenant with me (Protestant), so I surely hope he upholds it with Jews.

That being said, perhaps you should read the 13th commandment. The one that says "Whosoever lacketh a sense of humor can kiss Groo's ass"


113 posted on 05/16/2010 6:49:47 PM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (Dum spiramus tuebimur - "While We Have Breath, We Will Defend")
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To: lovesdogs

Another beautiful verse from the Gita:

The Blessed Lord said:

Son of Pritha, a transcendentalist engaged in auspicious activities does not meet with destruction either in this world or the spiritual world; one who does good, My friend, is never overcome by evil.


114 posted on 05/16/2010 6:51:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: CyberAnt

Hebrews 9:16,17. For where a testament is there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.


115 posted on 05/16/2010 6:52:28 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: lovesdogs
Taking Possession of What God Gives: A Case Study in Salvation

Our loving God desires that none should perish. He has provided the way of salvation. May we diligently seek to know what is the Will of God through His Word, because we've been told that Word will judge us in the Last Day.

This article is lovingly and prayerfully offered for your reading, study, and consideration. God bless.

116 posted on 05/16/2010 6:52:35 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: lovesdogs

Whatever God wants to happen.
Every other answer is conceit or hypocrisy.


117 posted on 05/16/2010 6:52:37 PM PDT by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: lovesdogs

“Will my prayer help?”

And about half of Christianity believes that your prayer does help. The Orthodox church teaches that the the soul obviously lives on. The soul still exists, and it can be still be assisted with prayer. Including it’s final state.


118 posted on 05/16/2010 6:53:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Star Traveler

the 1979 was supposed to be the second coming...not the first.


119 posted on 05/16/2010 6:53:47 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Ann Archy
What happens to Mormons....Buddists....Muslims....etc, etc???

Sadly, they face eternal damnation if they do not place their faith in Jesus before their death.
120 posted on 05/16/2010 6:54:08 PM PDT by armydoc
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