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To: sr4402
Scripture is given by God not man. Thus it is Holy, infallable and inerrant.

I AGREE with that -- I DISagree with SOLA scriptura (i.e. ONLY scripture -- THAT is unbiblical)

Christ's commandments are not tradations, they are not optional.

Christ's commandments were part of Holy Tradition before scripture was compiled. They still are as scripture was birthed from Holy Tradition (the days of the 1st century).

By using the word ONLY scripture, you minimize the importance of Christ and limit His Word. This is an attack upon Christ Himself.

Christ said that "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that procedes from the mouth of God." --> the WORD. At no point is this limited to the WRITTEN WORD. "In the beginning was the Word." --> please understand this, there is no dispute about the holiness, sanctity and Godly origin of scripture. The dispute is about the unbiblical, unscriptural and God-limiting concept of "sola" scriptura.

By limiting God to just the Bible, the proponents of sola scriptura seek to put limits on God, which is inherently wrong.

Reminder: There is no dispute that Scripture is given by God not man and is Holy, infallible and inerrant and there is no dispute that Christ is Lord and God and The WORD of God. The dispute is over the limitation of God to only the WRITTEN Word.

Man shall not live by bread alone by by every word that proceeds from the MOUTH of God"
1,015 posted on 06/09/2010 8:50:15 PM PDT by Cronos (Origen(200AD)"The Church received from theApostles the tradition of giving Baptism even to infants")
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To: Cronos
By using the word ONLY scripture, you minimize the importance of Christ and limit His Word. This is an attack upon Christ Himself.

Did you not look at the Scriptures I first sent you, that Christ is the Word of God?? The Scriptures are Holy because Christ is Holy. Treating anything above Scripture is not to treat Christ as Holy.

No what is happening here is an attempt to undermine Christ and the Scriptures He directed to be written. It is an attempt to undermine the Scriptures and replace it with traditions whatever it is deemed to be.

I've asked if you are a Christian since the Scriptures sent seem to have no impact. When every I have mentioned Christ's preeminence, I have heard no Amen.

Many folks know about Christ, but do not know Him personally as Lord. You see the trouble is trusting in anything else besides Him is not Faith. Salvation plus anything but Faith (belief upon Christ) is not Salvation. Trusting in Tradition is trusting something else besides Christ. And trusting in anything that is not God quickly becomes an Idol in ones life. The Scriptures are right when it says that Idols quickly turn folks from God.

Since the Scriptures were supervised and ordained by God, and He Himself calls Himself the Word of God, therefore it and He alone is completely trustworthy and worthy of Faith.

No, Cronos, what you have been doing is putting Traditions importance above Scripture saying it came before Scripture when it came from the mind of God before the foundation of the World. You have been putting Traditions above Christ.

Again, I must ask you if you are a Christian since you have put Tradition ahead of His Word and Himself. Have you put your faith upon Christ alone as your personal Savior to pay for all your sins? Have you turned away from your own life and called Him alone Lord? Or have you devoted your life to the variable traditions of fickle men and the mess of pottage that it is?

Finnaly, I remind you of what Christ said to Peter "Come and follow Me". Will you forsake the traditions of men and come and follow Christ? When the rich young ruler was asked, he loved riches more than Christ. Will you love tradition more than Him? Peter turned and followed Christ, will you?

1,018 posted on 06/10/2010 9:06:28 AM PDT by sr4402
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