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To: vladimir998
“They may have used contraception at some time or another, but not at the time they got pregnant.”

Again, not true. Even the pill sometimes fails. What leads to abortion is the contraceptive mentality which reduces children to a commodity.

The rate of contraceptive failure is low. The apparent rate of failure is probably higher than the real rate, since those having abortions are likely to lie and say they were taking precautions when they weren't. In any case, even if every woman who had a bona fide contraceptive failure had an abortion (and most of them don't), their numbers are not great enough to account for all the abortions that occur. Most abortions occur because of failure to use contraceptives, not because of contraceptive failure.

“I hypothesize that the study will show that the stronger someone’s “pro-choice” attitude is, the less likely they are to consistently use contraceptive.”

No, it’s probably the opposite.

That doesn't even make sense. By that reasoning, the highest contraceptive use would be among strongly pro-abortion women, so their abortion numbers would be negligible. And pro-life women wouldn't be having abortions to begin with... so the abortion industry would collapse. The fact (supported by studies) is that the vast majority of abortions take place because of lack of contraceptive use--the assumption is that those having the abortions choose not to use contraceptives because they know abortion is readily available, with the implicit secondary assumption that they are willing to use abortion as their primary means of birth control (not contraception) because of their strong "pro-choice" attitude.

42 posted on 06/10/2010 5:33:26 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
The rate of contraceptive failure is low.

Not in my family. There's quite a number of "pill babies" that the Good Lord wanted on this earth - and we love every one of them, despite their parents' wanting to beat the system God gave us. I can name a number conceived when medical textbooks say they couldn't be, even using perfectly natural means. We won't get into multiples. Only God knows that one for sure.

The whole "planning" thing is just selfish and thwarts God's will. God says "ha" from time to time. Get used to it.

43 posted on 06/10/2010 6:08:49 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: exDemMom

You wrote:

“That doesn’t even make sense. By that reasoning, the highest contraceptive use would be among strongly pro-abortion women, so their abortion numbers would be negligible.”

No. All people who support abortion support contraception. All of them. There may indeed be someone out there who doesn’t want to swallow a pill everyday, but sees nothing inconvenient about having an abortion, but I have never met anyone like that ever. And even that woman will still turn out to be pro-contraception. She is just too lazy to use it herself. Everyone who supports murdering children supports undermining the natural use of sex. You cannot believe in one without believing in the other.

The contraceptive mentality leads to abortion. Every nation that allows artifical contraception allows abortion sooner or later. The former always leads to the latter. Those who support contraception are also supporting abortion even if they don’t know it. They are also supproting the destruction of the family, the end of traditional marriage roles and the general destruction of the moral fiber of society.

Ever read Lionel Tiger’s Decline of Males? You might want to. http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~ltiger/publications/declineofmales.html

The Church saw all of this coming decades ago. Pope Paul VI’s Humani Vitae was prophetic.


44 posted on 06/10/2010 6:14:58 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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