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Priests are a gift from the Heart of Christ, Pope Benedict says
CNA ^ | 6/13/2010

Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: RnMomof7
If God had intended a priesthood it would have been outlined in the NT

If God intended Protestant heresy, that would have been outlined in the NT.

This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me.

Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophesy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood. (1 Timothy 4:14)

"Roll", by the way, is what some people do with cigarette paper.

41 posted on 06/14/2010 5:24:42 AM PDT by annalex
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To: RnMomof7
There are elders and Bishops and deacons, but no priesthood

Hello? A bishop is a priest.

42 posted on 06/14/2010 6:02:01 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Mad Dawg
The English word 'priest' is derived from the Greek word presbyteros

HaHa...Of course the Greek word presbyteros is translated as 'elder' in the English language but somehow your religion decided priest was derived from the same word...

Apparently then, while the rest of the world knows presbyteros means elder in English, your religion decided it would mean priest, at least in your religion...

The rest of the world knows that there already exists a Greek word for the English word priest, and that is hiereus...

So for you guys, presbyteros means priest...Hiereus means priest...Elder means priest...But priest doesn't really mean priest in the OT sense of the word where priest was pretty much defined... hiereus

43 posted on 06/14/2010 6:41:13 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
But priest doesn't really mean priest in the OT sense of the word where priest was pretty much defined... hiereus

Of course not. Priest means priest in the NEW testament sense of the word, because Christ came. Duh!

44 posted on 06/14/2010 6:55:49 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
never admit that "priests" and "elders" were sometimes the same in the early church.

We don't admit it because it is not true...And if there was an early church that used the word priest, it was a false church...

never admit that the word "priest" comes from "presbyter

They are fooling you...What is presbyter??? Is it supposedly a Latin word??? There are no Latin words in the Scripture...

Presbyter looks suspiciously like the word presbuteros which is a Greek word...And THAT Greek word means 'Elder'...And what is an Elder??? And why can't priest mean elder??? Because 'elder' is an old person...Biblically, you can not have a young elder...

Most of your priests come unto the scene as very young...They are starting out against the will of God...No way would God ordain a young elder

Your religion has sold you a bouquet of flowers that don't pass the smell test...

You guys claim your religious tradition along with scripture...But when your tradition is rejected by scripture, it's time to dump the tradition...

45 posted on 06/14/2010 8:35:26 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: annalex
Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophesy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood. (1 Timothy 4:14)

There is no priesthood in the NT, or the church...

1Ti 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.

It is the presbytery...The elders...Old people...No young (or old) Catholic priests...

46 posted on 06/14/2010 8:41:29 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Judith Anne
Hello? A bishop is a priest.

You guys just said a priest is an Elder...

A bishop is an episkopos...Now a priest is an episkopos...And a priest is a presbuteros...And a priest is a hiereus

Do you guys ever listen to yourselves??? Oh, and a priest is an alter theos

47 posted on 06/14/2010 8:49:19 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Judith Anne

Where’d you go??? You got quiet all of a sudden...


48 posted on 06/14/2010 8:51:52 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
You guys claim your religious tradition along with scripture...But when your tradition is rejected by scripture, it's time to dump the tradition...

Or, instead of dumping tradition, maybe it's time for "you guys" to get some better interpretation of the scripture. You know, like John 6.

49 posted on 06/14/2010 8:54:04 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Iscool

All of a sudden? How about two hours later?


50 posted on 06/14/2010 8:56:00 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Iscool
A bishop is an episkopos...Now a priest is an episkopos...And a priest is a presbuteros...And a priest is a hiereus

What are you, Greek? A priest can also be a monk, an abbot, a college president, a congressman, a cardinal, and a pope. Is Greek your first language?

51 posted on 06/14/2010 9:06:54 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; RnMomof7
one authorized to perform the sacred rites of a religion especially as a mediatory agent between humans and God

The only mediator is Jesus Christ. He alone is the necessary Mediator.

52 posted on 06/14/2010 11:02:40 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Outlaw Woman
The only mediator is Jesus Christ. He alone is the necessary Mediator.

Kindly show me the scripture (since you appear to be going sola scriptura) wherein God says, "Thou shalt have no other mediators than My Son between thee and Me." Or, failing that, where Christ Himself says "I am thy ONLY mediator with God."

53 posted on 06/14/2010 11:11:09 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Oh, and I know the first commandment, and I know that Christ said, “No one cometh unto the Father except by me,” but I want the verses about MEDIATORS, which you claim that God forbids, and presumably Christ forbids as well. Where are they?


54 posted on 06/14/2010 11:16:14 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; Quix
Hi Judith. Hope you are having a wonderful day.

I would ask you to go to the bible and support your position. The bible is the only source and it says nothing about any person/human, being a mediator. We are free to come to the Throne of God directly through Jesus Christ alone.

55 posted on 06/14/2010 11:26:08 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Judith Anne; Quix
one authorized to perform the sacred rites of a religion especially as a mediatory agent between humans and God

From your original post. Mediator (mediatory) is the term that you used. From what source did you acquire that term?

Also, I didn't indicate anything about it being forbidden, in fact that term (forbidden) wasn't used in any response that was made; only that it is not necessary to go to a human to approach the mighty Throne of God. Jesus Christ alone is all that is necessary.

56 posted on 06/14/2010 11:33:50 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Outlaw Woman

You made the assertion: “The only mediator is Jesus Christ. He alone is the necessary Mediator. “

You evidently can’t support that in scripture, so you demand that I prove your negative? Sorry, that’s fallacious reasoning.

It’s clear that you asserted something which has no scriptural support. I do believe that if you search, you’ll find plenty of meadiator/intercessory prayers and actions, old and new testament.


57 posted on 06/14/2010 11:36:20 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
Please see posts 54 & 56. God Bless you Judith, it's hard to realize that all this time, a human being was not necessary to intercede on your behalf. Only Jesus/the Holy Spirit.
58 posted on 06/14/2010 11:40:04 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Outlaw Woman
From your original post. Mediator (mediatory) is the term that you used. From what source did you acquire that term?

From YOUR post, #52.

59 posted on 06/14/2010 11:40:18 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
Please see your post #20. You introduced the term.
60 posted on 06/14/2010 11:42:40 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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