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To: liege

There is not one mention of wounds in John chapter 20. Thomas was not questioning if Jesus died, he was questioning if he was really alive again. The word “into” can also be translated as “against”. The word “shape” means “a pattern”. Thomas was looking for a way to identify Jesus and strike his side to see if he was really there. Only an insane person would want to go poking into open wounds.


12 posted on 07/05/2010 10:21:25 AM PDT by chatter4
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To: chatter4

>> Only an insane person would want to go poking into open wounds.

What makes you think He was resurrected with open wounds? I’m confident the same Almighty who breathed life back into my Savior also had the power to heal up the wounds so he wouldn’t be all gross and scare folks away. Do you think He was walking around with his clothing bloodstained from a still-bleeding wound in his side? Of course not. He had scars, yes, but no open wounds.


19 posted on 07/05/2010 10:28:57 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: chatter4; liege
liege: [quotes John 20:25-27]

chatter4: Thomas was looking for a way to identify Jesus and strike his side to see if he was really there. Only an insane person would want to go poking into open wounds.

John 20:27, chatter4 version:

Then He said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and punch me right in the kidneys; and do not be unbelieving, but believing."

23 posted on 07/05/2010 10:36:32 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2503089/posts?page=9#9)
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Or it could have been Thomas using hyperbole, saying that to believe such extreme claims he needed to see extreme proof.
It is a mistake to think that the people of ancient times did not have a grasp on humor, sarcasm, allegories, analogies, AND even hyperbole.


24 posted on 07/05/2010 10:37:09 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: chatter4
The word “into” can also be translated as “against”. The word “shape” means “a pattern”. Thomas was looking for a way to identify Jesus and strike his side to see if he was really there.

Not so. The Greek reads almost exactly as the KJV translates it. And tupos does not mean "shape" in any sense. Literally, it means the stamp of a die; when used of the human body, it means "scar".

82 posted on 07/05/2010 10:54:09 PM PDT by John Locke
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