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I Don’t Need your Catechism! (Catholic Caucus)
Catholic Exchange ^ | July 22, 2010 | Marlon De La Torre

Posted on 07/22/2010 5:57:02 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Our elementary catechism (at the NO parish) is a mix — there definitely are crafts (appropriate for the little ones) but also emphasis on prayers such as St. Michael’s and the making of rosaries. Have never heard any inappropriate music. So we are still comfortable with the RE there, even though I personally won’t attend the NO Mass.


41 posted on 07/22/2010 8:29:50 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks -— apostrope’s’es is such aggravatin’ li’l buggers.


42 posted on 07/22/2010 9:36:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God has set limits on man's intelligence, none on his stupidity.)
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To: NYer

>>If not, I’ll be happy to repost it. <<

I do! But you need to repost it so everyone can see.


43 posted on 07/22/2010 10:07:43 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: trisham
I quit teaching for this reason as well. Some of these DRE's are just dreadful. Some don't seem to know they don't know the faith either.

I am in a new state, the new parish needs a DRE, I am semi qualified, but....but terrified of applying. It's so draining trying to fight 40 years of ignorance.

44 posted on 07/22/2010 10:09:07 AM PDT by defconw (In memory of Bahbah, May she rest in eternal peace.)
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To: NYer

They don’t have K or Pre-K.
Our parish takes the 1st grade book and adapts it.


45 posted on 07/22/2010 10:09:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Tax-chick; NYer
. . . people who don’t know the subject and don’t care about the subject, putting in their time with as little effort as possible.

That is true of ANY situation where you have volunteers.

But it's most dangerous in a religious instruction context. If an adjunct professor teaching legal research and writing to 1st year law students blows off the hard work and doesn't teach the kids, because all she wants is something to put on her resume (as far too many of my fellow adjuncts did), the kids will get shortchanged (and cheated out of something they've paid good money for) -- but at least she won't be endangering their souls.

I guess the Church is paying for 40 years of unbelievably bad catechesis. Now those shortchanged kids are teaching the kids.

46 posted on 07/22/2010 10:50:09 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Tax-chick
Is that about your daughter. Please put me on The Seaman Anoreth ping list. The Lord is showing me how powerful and important everyday pray matters. I have been taken to a place of pray that's so beautiful. So necessary.

My Mother Prayed for My Brother during the Vietnam war. He was a marine. When He came back. He was scratching his head telling my mother. How come when called to go to mainland from the south china sea. He was always passed over. Well she told him. She prayed the bible in one hand and the Rosary in the other that he never would kill or be killed. He never was. He became a deacon of the church. What he learned was radio communications which was very important for info going back and fro. He later became a ATT executive. So In the Holy Spirit be my pleasure to pray for her.

47 posted on 07/22/2010 12:17:20 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
That is true of ANY situation where you have volunteers.

I see it more with "professionals." Everyone I've known teaching at church or working with Scouts has been doing their best.

The *big problem* with RE, in my opinion, is that parents are half-hearted about their faith. I suppose getting the children to a class, most of the time, is *something*, but it's not much.

48 posted on 07/22/2010 1:43:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I hate other cultures. Everyone is rude and they never wash or use deodorant."~Anoreth)
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To: johngrace

Thank you very much! My father was in Vietnam for two years, and in the Navy for 27 years.

“Seaman Anoreth” is my daughter. She’s 19 years old and in the Coast Guard; it’s been a little over a year since she enlisted. She’s on a cutter based in Seattle, but they’ve been in the Western Pacific since April and she reports about the countries they visit. Practicing her travel journalism skills for a future career, maybe. The ping list is low-intensity. Sometimes there will be three messages in a day, if she’s online, and sometimes two or three weeks will pass when they’re at sea and can’t email.

My husband has pinkeye again, but none of the rest of the family has come down with it, so I’m sure your prayers are doing something for us!


49 posted on 07/22/2010 1:46:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I hate other cultures. Everyone is rude and they never wash or use deodorant."~Anoreth)
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To: NYer

read later


50 posted on 07/22/2010 2:05:13 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Tax-chick

My Mom had 7 kids. I am remind of my mom when I see the pic’s on your homepage. So beautiful a devout faith you have in Christ. God Bless you and Keep you Always.


51 posted on 07/22/2010 2:25:22 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: netmilsmom
Our parish takes the 1st grade book and adapts it.

You may want to look into the Ignatius Press books. They are excellent!

52 posted on 07/22/2010 2:53:28 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: NYer

My Catechism teachers were nuns, which unfortunately didn’t guarantee a good or meaningful experience. We were told to memorize a section, and then at the next class to stand up and recite it. Very unfortunate, imho. The memorization was fine, even worthwhile, but there was no interaction, no explanation or analysis of the material.


53 posted on 07/22/2010 2:59:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

Our K CCD is free. I’’m not sure they want a book.


54 posted on 07/22/2010 3:18:08 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: surroundedbyblue
I'll surely pray for your friend. My brother-in-law, "the priest," was just here blessing our house (throwing holy water all over the place!), as some of our kids have fallen away ...

Remember to recite the rosary for help from Our Mother ...
55 posted on 07/22/2010 3:34:32 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

Thank you. I will say the rosary tonite. And I appreciate your thoughts


56 posted on 07/22/2010 3:46:00 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: SumProVita
Unfortunately, this is all TOO common. This is why, if possible, we should find those who are committed Catholics and meet regularly to pray for our parishes. This is especially important in the worst parishes. Prayer IS powerful and will eventually work wonders. Those who are committed to such prayer should also get involved in the various ministries of that same parish as led by the Holy Spirit. What God can do with even one person is pretty amazing. ;-))
This is outstanding advice. We have two parishes in our town that we frequent, and the one that has 11-12 ladies that stay after daily mass to pray the rosary is fairly vibrant (they have adoration, etc.), but the one where no one prays at all following daily mass, is still pretty much spiritually dry. Prayer IS powerful as you say. Also, getting in touch with one's bishop is helpful. My husband wrote out a letter to ours, and received a snail mail back in cursive as well. It was pretty cool.
57 posted on 07/22/2010 3:46:12 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: NYer
The success of the day came not by how much doctrine I could expose them to, it was helping them realize how little they knew about the faith and what to do about.

That's doing some good work, there!

58 posted on 07/22/2010 6:07:24 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Heh, yeah, I got some of those 'suggestions', and promptly ignored them. I was very frank with the kids in my class about what the Church teaches, and more importantly WHY she teaches it, and I didn't need to visual aids.

At year's end, several of my students scored the highest grades on the final exam given to all the 9th grade students. Sadly two of my students scored the lowest, but they were the two girls who paid little attention to what we covered the entire year. When the director of the program asked my opinion about what should be done, I told her that they should be required to repeat the entire year, if they wanted to be Confirmed.

59 posted on 07/22/2010 6:12:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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I guess I've seen some slackers -- too many people around here are just out to pad their resumes. Or treat the organization as a social club rather than doing their work.

But dedicated volunteers who know their stuff DO try their best and are usually pretty good. Our BSA troop and our Venture crew are full of good volunteers.

60 posted on 07/22/2010 6:16:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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