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To: achilles2000

I’m guessing indicators of the popularity of the “theistic, moralistic, therapeutic” mode-of-thought, right? (eg “I’m ok; basically everyone is a good person and while we fail sometimes as long as you ‘try to be good’ everything is fine.”)

I’m reminded of a small video I saw wherein a speaker said, to a room full of *PASTORS*, “There is a difference between you and me: you believe that something is true because you believe it; I believe in it because it is true.” (Or something similar.) And I have to say that such seems to be the state of much [American] Christianity today: people don’t believe it because it’s true, but believe it based on ‘feelings.’ {There’s a theory/supposition that this is tied into the “feminization of the Church”-phenomena, and this is why many men don’t like church: it’s all about [feminine-type] ‘feelings’ and not at all about ‘Truth’/’Justice’ and “standing against evil.”}


7 posted on 07/27/2010 11:19:33 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

‘Basically, if you have a sinking ship, you don’t invite people to it, you jump off and get away. And so I would say it’s perhaps the most harmful myth that Christians believe about ourselves.”

Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens.


9 posted on 07/27/2010 11:24:54 AM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: OneWingedShark

You have about nailed it...


10 posted on 07/27/2010 11:44:04 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: OneWingedShark
Pastors don't preach about SIN anymore. Everything is "mistakes we've made" and doing feel good works.

Where is "For ALL have SINNED, and fall short"?

Where is "And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment"?

Too many churches are "seeker sensitive", and don't want to offend "seekers" by telling them that they are sinners and need a savior.

If people don't know they're sinners, why do they need a savior.

If people don't need a savior, whats the purpose of a "missions" trip to "bring Christ" to them.

Is this Christ a savior from sins, or just a feel good Kumbahya song leader?

13 posted on 07/27/2010 12:06:26 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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