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Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
TheSacredPage.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Michael Barber

Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: LiteKeeper

You wrote:

“It is mystifying!”

The truth often is to some.


41 posted on 08/07/2010 4:43:49 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: ansel12

Oh, I very much agree with the Church’s condemnation of abortion.


42 posted on 08/07/2010 4:44:16 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Salvation

Pope Benedict’s grand project of reunifying and revitalizing Christianity seems increasingly plausible. This elderly, conservative German theological may prove to be as consequential a Pope as John Paul II.


43 posted on 08/07/2010 4:45:13 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: vladimir998

The biggest mistake of the Human mind is not what you think is right but what you know for certain is wrong. Who is “we” ? are you Legion?


44 posted on 08/07/2010 4:46:12 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

You wrote:

“Do Catholics believe evangelical Christians have the same ticket to heaven?”

Catholics believe non-Catholics can be saved. What is arrogance and meanspiritiedness is to assume people are unsaved just because they went from a newfangled sect created less than 500 years ago to the Church Christ extablished almost 2,000 years ago.


45 posted on 08/07/2010 4:47:30 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: fish hawk

You wrote:

“The biggest mistake of the Human mind is not what you think is right but what you know for certain is wrong. Who is “we” ? are you Legion?”

No, I am Catholic. Ane we probably know the Bible better than you do.


46 posted on 08/07/2010 4:49:01 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

Well 54% of those Catholic voters voted for Obama, it has always been the norm for Catholics to vote liberal, the exceptions have been rare.


47 posted on 08/07/2010 4:50:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ought-six

If we can get Catholics to vote like Protestants then we could stop abortion.


48 posted on 08/07/2010 4:52:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: vladimir998; Dutchboy88

Probably not. But if you do, why don’t you follow what it told you? Not only what to do but the things you are doing that it told you not to do.


49 posted on 08/07/2010 4:53:05 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: trisham
Why would it?

Since Catholics vote proabortion and are more proabortion than even the giant pool of simply "Protestant", then we have to hope that the Evangelicals that are supposedly becoming Catholic do not vote as Catholics but as the ultra pro-life, ultra conservative Evangelical group that they are supposedly leaving.

50 posted on 08/07/2010 4:58:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

You wrote:

“Well 54% of those Catholic voters voted for Obama, it has always been the norm for Catholics to vote liberal, the exceptions have been rare.”

Actually no. Liberalism as a political force in America is truly less than 80 years old. Catholics have been voting longer than that.


51 posted on 08/07/2010 4:59:34 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998
Catholics believe non-Catholics can be saved.

Yes, but evangelicals believe Catholics can also be saved - by switching to the evangelical practice of the faith. Do Catholics believe that evangelicals (who are surely as earnest in their faith in Christ's salvation as any other denomination) will go to heaven without switching to Catholicism? Or are both sides pretty much the same in how they regard each other?
52 posted on 08/07/2010 5:00:58 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: fish hawk

You wrote:

“Probably not.”

Nope. We probably do.

“But if you do, why don’t you follow what it told you?”

I do. That’s why I am not Protestant.

“Not only what to do but the things you are doing that it told you not to do.”

I am not doing anything that it told me not to do. Your presumption is amazing - and typical of the anti-Catholic.


53 posted on 08/07/2010 5:01:29 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: ansel12

“If we can get Catholics to vote like Protestants then we could stop abortion.”

You mean Protestants like the Clintons?


54 posted on 08/07/2010 5:01:37 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

You wrote:

“Yes, but evangelicals believe Catholics can also be saved - by switching to the evangelical practice of the faith.”

And there we go with the arrogance and presumption.

“Do Catholics believe that evangelicals (who are surely as earnest in their faith in Christ’s salvation as any other denomination) will go to heaven without switching to Catholicism?”

This is possible.

“Or are both sides pretty much the same in how they regard each other?”

They are not.


55 posted on 08/07/2010 5:03:44 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

A saved man would never choose a faith that believes the cross is insufficient.


56 posted on 08/07/2010 5:17:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: fr_freak

We know which followers God has saved..the scriptures tell us ...


57 posted on 08/07/2010 5:18:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: vladimir998
For the best part of two thousand years the Catholic Church deliberately kept the people ignorant of "Bible Doctrine." The reason was, the official position of the RC Church: that the scriptures be damned, Christianity is what the priests say it is. You don't need to know the Bible, WE will tell you what is important for you to know.

This false teaching is what ultimately led to the Reformation, which sought only to return the church to the teachings of the Gospel and not the musings of any number of corrupt priests and "Popes." For this, Luther was excommunicated and had a price put on his head.

Many Catholics are grotesquely ignorant about the history of their own church. Their reulting bigotries and stupidities do not go down well among the educated Christian community.

58 posted on 08/07/2010 5:20:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: vladimir998
“Do Catholics believe that evangelicals (who are surely as earnest in their faith in Christ’s salvation as any other denomination) will go to heaven without switching to Catholicism?”

This is possible.


Interesting - I didn't know this, and I'm glad to hear it. Thanks for clearing this up for me.
59 posted on 08/07/2010 5:20:55 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: vladimir998
Actually no. Liberalism as a political force in America is truly less than 80 years old. Catholics have been voting longer than that.

Catholics have been supporting the left since Catholic immigration first started in the 1830s, but even in the last 80 years the Catholics have voted against the Republicans in all but 5 elections of the 20 elections since 1932. Protestants voted against the Democrats in all but 3 of those 20 races (1932,1936,1964), Even FDR had to count on the overwhelmingly liberal Catholic vote in 1940 and 1944 because Protestants were voting Republican.

60 posted on 08/07/2010 5:23:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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