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To: GunsAndBibles
One other point, short of the doctrinal issue.

Do you support the open borders policy of the US for the past 50 years or so...no effective border security?

Do you support the 14th Amendment language creating the anchor-baby situation?

Do you support the fact that on the occasional raid done for political purposes only the employees are busted? How many employers of illegal aliens are thrown into jail for long jail terms?

Do you support governments at all levels closing their eyes to day laborer gathering points? Do you support the fact that those who pick up the day laborers are not punished for doing so? (Not only for hiring people who are not legally able to work but also for tax evasion as well)

If you suspect that a restaurant is using illegals in the kitchen, do you walk out of it?

Would you refuse to buy a home that might have been constructed using illegals as laborers?

What constructive acts have you taken locally to make sure that your local government doesn't facilitate them where you live?

Yes, the illegal aliens are criminals and need to be dealt with accordingly. But if you honestly look at it, the government, businesses, and consumers have all really facilitated creating a magnet that draws them here.

If no employer would hire them because the employer knew that the price of getting caught hiring an illegal was a jail sentence, I bet that the illegal alien problem would quickly dry up and go away.

But that's not likely to happen any time soon...because the government is not likely to do so any time soon, are they?

And the government is not likely to take serious steps to seal up the border to make it impossible to cross (either from the north or the south), are they?

36 posted on 08/20/2010 7:25:07 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

To answer your question; I manage some income properties and I will not do business with any company that I know hires illegals. I will not patronize any establishment that I know hires illegals. I have the expectation that large retailers perform due diligence in their hiring practices.


39 posted on 08/20/2010 7:35:27 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (God save Calif. - 'cause it's gonna take a miracle.)
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To: markomalley
Evening Markomalley.

All of the issues you raised are certainly important ones.

However, I would argue that they do not provide a response to the original question.

Surely the simple question of "What is the Roman Catholic church's position regarding illegal immigration?" can be addressed, without moving over into those issues.

I recognize that there is a continuing conflict between some Roman Catholic and some non-Roman Catholic posters on FR, and sadly, that it will probably continue.

Personally, however, I am interested in the original question, and the answer.

BTW, I would, and will, be interested in any future posts concerning the other issues you raised (they do need to be addressed and resolved by this country).

I read a number of your posts, and it seems that you certainly have some knowledge concerning this issue, and how you see it impacting, or being impacted by, the Roman Catholic church.

I don't think the question is going to go away, the issue is spreading (I think I recently read that 21 states are now attempting to implement a law like the one recently passed by Arizona, and blocked by a Federal Judge).

Rightly or wrongly, the anger and frustration will be targeted somewhere, and the results probably won't be pretty.

I pray regularly that it will be resolved peacefully.

52 posted on 08/20/2010 8:05:03 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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