Posted on 09/02/2010 6:59:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Couldn’t one just believe, non-biblically?
It seems to me that I disagree mostly with Beck on doctrine, not on the basics about Christianity.
Wonder why Mike the Huckster wasn’t there? Are was he?
First, Glenn Beck has communicated the Gospel on his radio show and television program. The Gospel he proclaimed was NOT consistent with the teachings of the Mormon church. From what I heard, his understanding was consistent with Evangelical doctrine.
Second, I believe there is A truth and his name is Jesus Christ. This gives me hope when I see an ecumenical gathering. Such gatherings give me pause because, like Dr. Mohler, there is a risk the Gospel will be watered down to accommodate the largest number of people. However, truth is truth and the Truth is the light of men so I am confident it will win in the end. That gives me peace.
There were many speakers at the rally who expressed there faith in Jesus Christ as their Savior. I did not hear one sentence that communicated a Mormon understanding of Jesus and the Bible.
We used to have a generic civil religion in America, based on an undefined commitment to the country’s Judeo-Christian heritage, under a very big tent. Minimally, that’s what people want to see again. Protestants, Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Jews, Mormons, etc., etc., can and should work together on that and save the debates about heresy and aberrant theology for another day. If we don’t, we will soon be living under something very different.
the Mormons have some weird ideas, but how factually correct about theological details does one need to be in order to be saved?
I mean, what was the theology of the paradise-bound thief on the cross next to Christ?
Glen Beck was raised as a Roman Catholic as I recall. I believe that he knows and understands Chrisianity perfectly well. I would not be surprised that his conversion to Mormonism is as much to help his recovery from alcoholism as anything else. I really don’t understand the fear/distrust of Mormons that seems so prevalent.
Don’t know.
No. Jesus is all of God’s words in the flesh. Everything God ever said, Jesus lived and is. Therefore, no Word of God, no Son of God. And that includes the Father’s wrath, and righteous justice. Jesus will be the CEO of the world. Can’t wait!
The Islamoleftist theological enforcement squad will certainly not put up with any of that stuff.
1 John makes it clear that you need to understand the truth in order to be saved. In Acts, we see that a person needs to believe in his heart and confess with his mouth. Clearly, when Luke was writing that someone needed to believe in his heart, he is referring to something specific and not some generality that can vary.
Historically, that "something" has been outlined in the various creeds of the faith. That Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary, was both God and man, lived a perfect life, was crucified, died and on the third day rose again. That he suffered the righteous wrath of God in our place to pay the sin debt we owe God and that he imputes his righteousness to us.
Those are the basic tenets of the Christian faith and are call primary doctrines. In other words, they are non-negotiable. There are other doctrines, called secondary doctrines, such as infant baptism, gifts of the Spirit, etc, where Christians can hold different views and still be genuine Christians.
The guys who got together in the summer of 1787 to write our Constitution didn't agree on everything either. But they DID agree that there was a problem with the current situation.
I am not saying Glenn Beck is George Washington...what I AM saying is that if those men were able to overcome their differences, we need to follow their example.
No more socialism. No more kings. No more community organizers running our government.
In fact, they're more likely to be repelled by them.
What people do want, is a Savior.
If the Gospels tell us anything at all, it's that Jesus didn't save people by out-arguing the Pharisees (though he could do that, too, when circumstances called for it).
He saved people by being among them, sharing their lives and troubles, and by loving and healing them.
Perhaps Dr. Mohler should stop loving the sound of his own voice, and start trying to reach non-Christians in the same way Jesus did.
Theology is by nature, ambiguous. Beck was aiming for a higher goal, establishing common ground on the moral level that cuts across most religious sects and dogma.
” how factually correct about theological details does one need to be in order to be saved?”
You certainly can’t be saved if you follow a false prophet and believe that you are saved by works and not by grace.
Whatever else Mike Huckabee might be, he is grounded in the true scripture. You might spend your time more wisely praying that Glenn Beck will see the truth and denounce Mormonism.
Do any posters on this thread have an understanding of Mormon theology?
How then, can they speak on it.
I was a Mormon for 40 years. My ancestors joined Mormonism in the mid 1800’s. It is a very, very different religion even by their own admission, Teaching of a different Christ, a different God, and a different salvation.
Please learn of the differences - then come to Christ.
I’ve heard Beck say that he became a Mormon just because of his wife - that that was her faith.
And yes, it’s troubling that Beck’s faith deviates a lot from the Bible, but as others have noted, he hasn’t incorporated any tenets of Mormonism, so far, into his speech.
I just pray that the many evangelicals with whom he’s surrounded himself will ultimately show him the truth of the gospel, and that he and his family will accept that truth.
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