Skip to comments.The Bride Will Leave Christendom--Vision by Wayne Thomas [NZ]
Posted on 09/17/2010 6:26:32 AM PDT by Quix
Therefore what, I don't know. It just rings true in my spirit.
I do NOT believe ANY categories of organizations will be exempted.
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Forgot to type you in as addressees, Sorry.
I think this is worth your consideration.
God’s original plan had adam and eve in a garden... not a church built by man...
perhaps the plan hasn’t changed...
Some comments from Andrew’s website:
By “Traveler” 17 Sep 2010:
It lines up with scripture, it makes sense and it has already started to happen.
The building represents the institution of Christianity that is based on human reasoning and corporate rules. It has to comply for its tax exempt status.
The leaders have all received their accreditations from human institutions and have their incomes and reputations to consider. They follow the instructions of the committees and oversights. They have worked their way up the corporate ladders.
The bride is those that follow Jesus and serve God despite what the church requires with the result that they are for the most part not even recognized in the church as being of any great importance to its membership and probably not in submission to its oversight either.
But what needs to be remembered is that it is Jesus himself that collects his bride and he is the only part of this picture that actually matters. Not the degrees in theology or the positions on the corporate ladder or the recognition from men. The bride needs to be recognized by Christ and that is the only qualification that counts.
Wayne 17 Sep 2010:
Amen and Amen.
The false church, the church that the world finds appealing, is the classic anti christ, warned of in the BIBLE, preventing rather than facilitating genuine relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Stuart 17 Sep 2010:
I have been saying this for years. The traditional thing we call church the ministers, members, buildings, programs and such is not the bride and has never been. It is what man does when given something grand puts it in a box and builds a political structure around it. The bride the true church cannot be contained in a box and will not. She will not remodel the box, or purify the political structures man has built around it. She will simply leave the box.
Traveler again 17 Sep 2010:
The body of Christ follows Christ as individual members with a common purpose. It does not organize itself into a corporate system.
I am sure the leaders of the local synagogues of Jesuss day did not approve of the early Christians either. They did after all send Paul off to the out lying towns with letters of authority to bring all the Christians back for trial and stonings.
That turned out quite well but not for the established leaders of the day. Once again the establishment with the political power will be left out in the cold. Things do not change much, only the names and titles.
Madeline Fisher 17 Sep 2010:
New home-church groups are cropping up everywhere as people become more and more disillusioned with the denominational groups. Some are based upon the Word and seek to walk solely in it. They seek after truth and strengthening one another with the Word and worshiping the Lord with honest hearts.
Sadly, most take with them the traditions of men that they have learned in the group they just split from and rebuild, with some minor changes, what they just left. Traditions are just that. The Jews practiced every jot and tittle of all the rituals handed down from the time of Moses, yet did not know why they were doing them. The same applies to the new groups. They do things as they have been taught and add to them what seems good to them, not understanding that some of those practices are the foolishness of men and some are even an abomination to the Lord.
If they are truly seeking after the Lord, He will teach them, guide them, show them the way, and establish them by His power and love, that they may be a beacon that draws people to Him.
Beware of exclusivity. None of us has EVERYTHING right. We all need to be listening for His voice and walking in His love and direction, always willing to let HIM lead, avoiding the foolishness of men, and not exalting any man above another.
Bob Padgett 17 Sep 2010:
Of course the vision is true. Of course it is scriptural. However, we all need to be very careful that we do not become holier than thou believers. If any man thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought.
God still has part of that bride in many places.
Nine months ago I heard a word from the Lord that He is going to re-visit denominational churches (to extract a remnant out of the fire).Then I received four different scriptures to confirm that word. Then the Lord provided a real live experience with a highly influential Anglican priest to confirm that word.
Do not think that house churches are the answer. They are not! I was part of a New Testament house church for 12 years back in the late 60s through 1980. We had every gift and every ministry in operation. Derek Prince came to one of our meetings around 1974. He said he had heard that we were like the he-goats before the flocks (Jeremiah 50:8). He was right.
But it totally disintegrated after 13 years. I am aware of some of the reasons. Only the Lord knows all of the reasons.
What the Lord is doing is a hidden work within His remnant.
But one day, and probably sooner than we think, He is going to unveil His masterpiece for the world to see.
The Lord is indeed building His church and no man will get the glory.
Many are called but few choose. It is a matter of our choice whether or not we want to be part of the bride.
Will Green 17 Sep 2010:
What an exciting time we live in. The great end time Revival is upon us. Technology is allowing us to become saturated in the Word of God. We can now carry the entire Bible with us in our pocket, all 72 hours of it on audio.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Romans 10:17
It is time for the bride to fall in love with her first love again. She will only do this if she has her mind renewed by the washing of the Word.
CDs, DVDs and Gods Word Audio Players are readily available in hundreds of languages. Wycliffe Bible Translators has over 274 languages of Bibles in my understanding.
Jesus and the Word are one. In the beginning was the Word. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. To fall deeply in love with the Word is to fall deeply in love with Jesus.
Ask the author of the Word to teach you. Ask the Holy Ghost to reveal His truths to you. You will find the answers to your life in revelation, Rhema Word as you fill your spirit with written, Logos Word.
You are the church. Know you not that you are the temple of the Holy Ghost? The Great Whore of Babylon put the church in the building.
Fall in love with Jesus! Bathe in the Word day and night. Saturate your spirit in the Word of God.
I listened to the Word of God all night long for over two months and one evening I reached up and touched my skull on the left side where there was a hole from a mugging in 1968 during the race riots in Washington, DC. To my amazement the hole and ugly scar were gone! God Almighty had healed them, at what day I do not know. His Word works. The Holy Ghost wants you to get to know Him. Ask Him to teach you all about Jesus in Gods Word.
Revival begins in you and your house! Return to your First Love and he, Jesus, will acknowledge you as His bride.
Jason 17 Sep 2010:
This vision lines up perfectly with scripture. Like one has already siad though, if we take our eyes off of Jesus in it we miss the whole point. If we read this vision and admediately seek to justify our ourself as the bride instead of lookng to Jesus and to see if we realy are the bride, we will miss it.
God has directed us so far from church going ons I have almost forgot what they are like. They seem like something foreign and obtuse. This is not to say I sit enthroned over a brother or sister still in the system because God can have a man in the system for a season and use the sytem for his purposes.
Does God want the system forever? No. It will pass away and all that will be left is what it is real. Relationships, love, goodness, kindness, gentleness, joy, sound judgement, and the like. The bride is making herself ready by the Spirit. I agree that most of these guys we dont know or see. God the father has most of them to himself right now. Even if they are in a crowd of poeple they are barely noticed and rarely acknowledged as one of Gods. This to is fitting as Jesus underwent the same treatment. We will never know who many of these guys are until God reveals them because they wont complain or cry out that they are not noticed. They wont seek to be revealed until the veil is lifted or God calls them to some purpose. They are learning to be quite happy alone with the Lord with out all the going ons of men. Not that they never meet with men or minister, just somehow they are always with Jesus no matter what.
The day of the Lord only reveals what we realy are nothing more.
Robert Storms 17 Sep 2010:
Remember, Eve was Adams bride. The church is the body of Christ, the last Adam, and what this vision speaks of is Eve being taken out of the body of Adam. So, first the natural, then the spiritual.
When we delve into house church concepts, many just see it as another form of church. The kingdom of God, through the bride of Christ, is relational and an organism, not an organization. Its not about us, where we meet, how we meet, but with Whom we meet.
So, the issue is not how were doing church, but are we continuing to follow the Lords instruction, step by step. There will always be a step that we wrestle with before taking. The Lord always leads us beyond our comfort zone into His realm of purpose and destiny.
Catrise Paige 17 Sep 2010:
Could this shed light on the great falling away? If so, then there is part of the Scriptural alignment/agreement right there. Too many of us, myself included, have been experiencing this in recent years to disregard its significance. Reading this blesses me.
Francisco 17 Sep 2010:
Dear Mr. Thomas:
A brother by the name of Robert Burnell was given a dream by God which was published in 1980 titled Escape from Christendom that can be found at
Your vision and Bro. Burnells dream are eerily similar in substance. Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secrets unto his servants the prophets. (Amos 3:7)
Thanks for your kind reply.
I just know that God doesn’t FIT in
of the boxes man creates nor even that man can imagine.
I can attest to the fact that God does speak to people in NZ
What’s amazing is the way people are immediately ascribing your interpretations to the visionary (or whoever’s they were).
>> (-the various ‘streams’ and denominations of the church as we know it?) <<
Why would you suppose that, when Jesus said, “whoever does not hate his father or mother or brother is not fit to follow me.” Isn’t it far more suggestive that the bride’s family represents... her family?
I certainly think that far too many Christians fail to understand the ‘extreme’ priority Christ was marking out in that verse . . . the CENTRALITY AND ULTIMATE PRIORITY Father made CHRIST JESUS as the FULCRUM and FOCUS of all eternity and all the multi-verse.
THANKS FOR YOUR KIND REPLY.
GOD’S BEST TO YOU THIS WEEKEND.
Thanks also from me. God bless you.
Thanks for your kind words.
May God be with all those who put Him first.
I was thinking of you when I saw this posted.
Sigh, welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll will have to read it later too sleep deprived now, thx.
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