Islam Meets Catholicism as Muslim Protesters Call for Death of Pope Benedict [Ecumenical]

NewsReelBlog ^ | 09/22/2010 | Lisa Graas

[J Edgar]

I attended Catholic High School. Our football team where called the Crusaders. The school is no longer open, but I wish it where just so I could root for the Crusaders again!

[DreamingWest]

Have you ever been in a college class or other setting where this fact is blatantly in front of everyone and you seem to be the only person who is on some level of reality? Doesn’t matter how many times you tell people how Islam was spread or why the Crusades happened, they just don’t hear it.

This is probably one of my top reasons for not going back for my Masters in History, there’s not enough Valium I could take to save myself.

[VR-21]

"I don't think there has ever been an enemy that the American left has not COLLABORATED with.

I've been mulling over that statement a bit, and I don't believe that the American left collaborated directly with Nazi Germany or the Japanese Empire. The American left did oppose fighting the Nazis until 'Barbarossa,' and American communists in our State Dept. manipulated American policy to facilitate Mao's takeover of China. In that sense they were collaborating with the Kremlin to advance international communism, which still buttresses LIMD's observation of the lefts consonance with the muz.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Have you read any of Bat Ye’or’s books?

[noinfringers2]

All this bruhal simply shows how deeply in history the hatred for christians goes. It is even beyond Mohammed and the Koran stretching back to Abraham-Sahra and Abraham- Hagar who was Egyptian.

[diamond6]

“The left also hates the Pope and the Catholic Church”.

So do alot of freepers.

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

Anjem Chowderhead is the Freddy Phelps of Muslims. Funnily enough, he is also a former lawyer. They have a lot in common. They should totally hang out, or hang anyway...

[Kolokotronis]

” People forget that “the Christian world” as of the early 7th century had included Egypt, Syria, the Levant, all of Northern Africa to Gibraltar and the entire Iberian peninsula up to the Pyrenees, with thriving Christian communities, Byzantine and Nestorian, in what is now Iraq and Iran, along the Silk Road, even to the Indus.

People forget that almost all of this fell to the sword of Islam under the Rashidun (632–661) and the Umayyad (661–750) Caliphates, -—the Muslims had invaded and focibly taken over 2/3 of the Christian world.

Perhaps I shouldn’t say “people forget.” I’m pretty sure most of us never knew.”

No, Mrs. D, you Western Christians and secularists forgot, not my people. We’ve never forgotten and neither will our children or their children to the tenth generation and beyond.

[windsorknot]

There is absolutely no need to apologize for the Crusades.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"No, Mrs. D, you Western Christians and secularists forgot, not my people. We’ve never forgotten and neither will our children or their children to the tenth generation and beyond."

Amen to that, Kolokotronis, my friend.

[Psalm 144]

What is it with mohammedans and holding up the stink-finger?

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Eat with the right hand, wipe with the left. That is the clean one, but yes, the finger pointing is as obnoxious as the yelling.

[Psalm 144]

The article fails to mention that the Crusades - while largely poorly executed - were richly, richly deserved.

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They were. I wish the Templars were still recruiting.

[Borges]

There's a new book by British Historian Thomas Asbridge called ‘The Crusades’ which takes on the entire era and makes it cohere like an adventure novel. Apparently the Latin West was only too willing to also engage/fight the Greek East as well as team up with one Muslim sect to isolate others. They were surprisingly complex undertakings from a strategic point of view.

[wideawake]

They were surprisingly complex undertakings from a strategic point of view.

Sounds like a good recommendation.

They were necessarily complex, taking place intermittently over 200 years with an ever-changing coalition of Latin kingdoms, republics and organizations.

The Greeks themselves had a succession of dynastic struggles in which some players wanted to throw in with the Latins and others wanted to align with the Muslims.

The Muslims themselves had all kinds of internecine issues after the collapse of Abbasid supremacy, with Fatimid and anti-Fatimid factions, Abbasid revivalists, etc.

At any given point there were at least five players on the board, not two.

[Borges]

It’s also unclear whether Saladin was a dedicated Jihadi or simply an opportunistic Dynast who wanted to maintain his realm. The Muslims saw Christians as polytheists. Even at the very height of pitched battle, Islamic/Christian merchants had free passage from one end to the other. There was never really a feel of Universal Holy War. They were frontier conflicts by parties with a vested interest in the outcome.

[Salvation]

Continue to Pray for Pope Benedict [Ecumenical]