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Psalms 2-ESV (Reformed Caucus)
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Posted on 09/24/2010 12:57:16 PM PDT by HarleyD

Psa 2:1 Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?

Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against his Anointed, saying,

Psa 2:3 "Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us."

Psa 2:4 He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision.

Psa 2:5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying,

Psa 2:6 "As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill."

Psa 2:7 I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, "You are my Son; today I have begotten you.

Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession.

Psa 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."

Psa 2:10 Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth.

Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: psalms

1 posted on 09/24/2010 12:57:18 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; ...
Interesting Psalms foretelling the coming of the Messiah.

Our God is on the throne. But an interesting phrase pops up, "Kiss the Son, lest he be angry...". I would imagine it is a sign of respect. If so, then God demands respect of His Son.

2 posted on 09/24/2010 1:02:57 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; All

ESV on-line:

http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/browse/

Soli Deo Gloria!


3 posted on 09/24/2010 1:09:14 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: HarleyD

Why was the ESV ever/even produced?

Don’t we have enough English language translations?

There are many, many foreign language translations for unreached people groups that still need God’s Word.

I just don’t get it.


4 posted on 09/24/2010 2:08:40 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: HarleyD
An ongoing series?

Thank you.

thoughts later, maybe

5 posted on 09/24/2010 2:26:00 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Take, drink. Remember and believe that the blood of Jesus was shed for a complete remission ...")
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To: fishtank
Why was the ESV ever/even produced?

Basically, it was to find a middle ground between translations seen as too loose and/or theologically liberal (specifically, the NIV, RSV, and TNIV), and translations that are overly literal, to the point of making reading difficult (ie, the NASB).

6 posted on 09/24/2010 2:50:08 PM PDT by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: fishtank

I’m very glad the ESV translation WAS produced. It is hands down my favorite translation for general reading.


7 posted on 09/24/2010 3:21:53 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: HarleyD

Harley...Not sure what you mean by God “demanding” respect for His son. I do believe those who love Him quite naturally respect Him...and in fact respect may have very well preceded ones love for Him...the two seem to move together.


8 posted on 09/24/2010 3:26:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: fishtank
It is supposed to be the most accurate translation from the Greek to English

I use the KJV, but I am thinking of buying an ESV

9 posted on 09/24/2010 4:43:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: circlecity
I’m very glad the ESV translation WAS produced. It is hands down my favorite translation for general reading.

Ditto. Of course, I was raised on the original 1952 RSV, which the ESV is a revision of.

10 posted on 09/24/2010 6:22:41 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Take, drink. Remember and believe that the blood of Jesus was shed for a complete remission ...")
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To: RnMomof7
"I use the KJV, but I am thinking of buying an ESV"

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11 posted on 09/24/2010 6:30:52 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: HarleyD
"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry...".

Crossreference Rev. 19.

12 posted on 09/24/2010 6:42:41 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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To: HarleyD; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; ...
Why the Psalms?

Recently I read through the Psalms and found them to be particularly uplifting. They illustrated to me the Kingship of God and how David viewed himself as part of that Kingship. It is the relationship of one of the greatest believer, King David-a man after God’s own heart, with God. Do the Psalms sound like something we would say? It should.

Why a Reformed Caucus?

Why mark this as a Reformed Caucus and not a Devotional or Ecumenical post? I don't believe we see ourselves as part of this Kingship. This stems from two sets of errors I consistently see among Christians; God’s view of scripture and His view of unbelievers (the wicked). The Psalms succinctly addresses both of these issues. God devotes much time to the praise of His word and the beauty of His Law. It is my prayer that we understand the importance of God’s word as viewed by God, and align our view with God’s view of His holy word.

The Psalms also sharply contrasts God’s view of believers’ verses non-believers. At one time theologians talked about two concepts; grace and justice (the Law). This view is seldom talked about and you have to go as far back as the writings of Arthur Pink and others to find any discussion on it. In today’s ecumenical world, with its emphasis on loving unbelievers, the understanding of grace and justice has all but disappeared.

Christians have a strong God-given desire to love and to pray for those who do not know our Lord. Paul prayed for the Jews. Jeremiah wept over Jerusalem. But our views must be balanced with God’s view of the wicked in order for us to understand grace and justice. This is documented in the Psalms. Only by understanding God’s view of the wicked can we truly understand our fallen nature and how God looks at us. Through this understanding we can better understand the grace of God; both in our salvation and in our sanctification process. The more we see how impure we are, the more we understand the grace of God.

It is my prayer that through the Psalms

I am not a theologian but I have seen much error in recent months in regards to both these points; the holiness of God’s word and the contrast of unbelievers with believers. As such I reserve the right to enforce the caucus rules if believers stray too far from the purpose of these threads. This is the word of the Lord and should be treated in the respectful manner it is due.

I will eventually post all 150 Psalms but, after the third Psalm, I will not ping the Reformers to all these posts out of respect for their time. People may read, meditate and comment on them as time allows. I noticed that some like one version over another. I chose the ESV because this is what we use at church. But I’ll rotate the text for interest.

13 posted on 09/25/2010 3:00:52 AM PDT by HarleyD
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Yes, I think you're correct. I think it goes back to the earlier part of the Psalm that those kings who don't know the Son rally against Him, the one who God the Father has exalted.

I suppose in a way it also serves to show us a hierarchical change that God demands; similar to Paul telling us to respect those in charge over us.

14 posted on 09/25/2010 3:12:18 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Thank you

I look forward to reading these Psalms with my Brothers and Sisters in Christ.

15 posted on 09/25/2010 10:36:18 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: HarleyD

I agree with you HarleyD. It was through reading the Psalms that I really began to come to grips with these issues. That and the absolute sovereignty of God. I look forward to reading and occasionally commenting on the Psalms from this point of view.

Just as I found my church, the pastor was winding up a multi-year sermon series through every Psalm. I was thrilled to find someone doing that, so I asked him to start over just for me. :)


16 posted on 09/25/2010 11:19:11 AM PDT by lupie
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To: HarleyD
I will eventually post all 150 Psalms but, after the third Psalm, I will not ping the Reformers to all these posts out of respect for their time.

How about a temporary GRPL + friends Psalms ping list? I would love to be pinged to all of them since the "articles" by definition could not possibly be ever considered a misuse of my time. :)

17 posted on 09/25/2010 10:39:53 PM PDT by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: HarleyD
"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry...".

I've always loved that line. It's so literal and robust. We don't just honor Him and obey Him. We adore Him.

18 posted on 09/27/2010 4:24:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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