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To: BereanBrain
The eight souls saved by water in 1 Peter 3 never got wet.

The ark got wet. The ark took the suffering; the ark was baptized by a watery suffering. In the ark were eight believers who never got wet.

The baptism of the sufferings of Christ at Calvary NOW SAVES US. He, our ARK took the suffering and was baptized by it (Matthew 20:22).

By being in Christ we are as good as nailed to that Cross with Christ in His sufferings.

1 Peter 3 has nothing to do with any believer being baptized by water to be saved . . . if it did, then Noah and his family were still lost, for they never got wet.

77 posted on 09/29/2010 7:46:57 AM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: John Leland 1789

**The ark got wet. The ark took the suffering; the ark was baptized by a watery suffering. In the ark were eight believers who never got wet.**

And who had to build that ark, in order to be saved by water? Noah believed what God had commanded and HAD to act.

**1 Peter 3 has nothing to do with any believer being baptized by water to be saved . . . if it did, then Noah and his family were still lost, for they never got wet.**

The Lord didn’t command them to be baptized. He does command us to be baptized, and it’s WAAAAYY easier than building a great big barge.

What did the flood waters do? Wash the sinful lives of the world away.

A great type and shadow is found in 1 Cor. 10:1,2 where the exodus of the hebrews was ‘under the cloud, and passed through the sea. And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea.’ And guess what? God LED them to the Red Sea, almost like being led out of the way, to a senseless place to linger. Then they say the Egyptian army had them trapped, and believed that they were condemned. But the water saved them, by washing away the sentence of death that Pharaoh was intent on accomplishing. (hmmm..think about that....are you being led on this forum to your ‘Red Sea’?)

Paul mentions in Romans and Colossians about being ‘buried with him in baptism’, and Paul baptized a good many souls. Jesus likened his buriel to the ‘sign of Jonah’. Jonah got wet. Jonah’s story is a great type and shadow. Buried at sea in the whale, Jonah came forth, and made tracks for Nineveh; a 400 mile walk. And once there, preached with such power that those uncircumcised heathen repented, and God wrath was stayed.

Jesus commanded baptism to his disciples, and they obeyed, leading off with Peter commanding it done in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins.

It’s about child-like faith. Tell a child about Jesus, and that being baptized in his name will take away those sins, and they believe it.

Man says, “That’s absurd. That water doesn’t do anything miraculous, and how does saying Jesus name make any difference?”. God says it does. Who is right?


85 posted on 09/29/2010 6:54:23 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: John Leland 1789
"The eight souls saved by water in 1 Peter 3 never got wet. The ark got wet. The ark took the suffering; the ark was baptized by a watery suffering. In the ark were eight believers who never got wet.

I think you need to reexamine types and anti-types. The anti-type is never literal to the type. For example Isaac is a type of Christ yet Isaac's life was spared and Christ life was given. Moses is a type of Christ, yet Jesus was never raised a son of Pharaoh. Joshua is a type of Christ yet Jesus never attacked the wall of Jericho. Elijah is a type of Christ, yet Jesus died on a cross while Elijah goes to God with out tasting death.

But back to the understanding of types and anti-types not being literal. You stated "1 Peter 3 has nothing to do with any believer being baptized by water to be saved . . . if it did, then Noah and his family were still lost, for they never got wet", to follow your same logic, eight souls were separated from water by Gopher-wood. They never got wet. Christ separates us from sin and death therefore Christ must be made of Gopher-wood.

Peter clearly says that "eight souls were saved by water." The Holy Spirit choose those words. Either God intended to make the type and anti-type about water in this passage, or He got confused when He should have said the ark. Think about it. The subject is salvation by water not salvation by the ark. Therefore, he says, The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us... Peter is not stating here that the ark is a type of Christ, (even though it is), he is stating that eight souls saved by water is a type/symbol of BAPTISM that doth also now save us.

87 posted on 09/30/2010 8:02:44 AM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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