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Bryan Fischer: Firefighters did the Christian thing in letting house burn
The Examiner ^ | 10/7/10 | Joe Speranzella SFO

Posted on 10/07/2010 7:04:54 AM PDT by Catholic Examiner

Greed over need. What would Jesus do?


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: opinion; vanity
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To: LADY J

Thats ashame and sad. I wish the homeowner cared more about them


61 posted on 10/07/2010 8:26:19 AM PDT by fml
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To: Pessimist

That’s easy for you to say, because I doubt you live in this community.

You more than likely live somewhere that is protected by a Fire department paid by your tax dollars or where voluntees answer every call no matter where it is.

I apologise if you live in this neighborhood or are under a system such as this. Otherwise you are already covered by Socialism .


62 posted on 10/07/2010 8:31:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
I dont care to argue this point, nor will my mind ever be changed. No matter how cheap or rotten a person the man was, it doesnt excuse this action.

What if you found out the mortgage had been paid off on the house, and that the owner was going to pocket a big chunk of change?

AND... that the only way he would get the money 'free and clear' would be if the house burned to the ground. What if he set the fire, to collect the insurance money, knowing it would burn to the ground, because he hadn't paid for FD services?

63 posted on 10/07/2010 8:32:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: 1rudeboy

With all the witnesses involved, in this case I doubt it would be an issue. Either way, it’s better than watching a house burn down.


64 posted on 10/07/2010 8:36:01 AM PDT by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: ontap
Since according to the story he was fully covered by insurance he only lost the personal items that can’t be replaced so should require little help!

Making sure the FD wouldn't put out the fire so that he could collect the full amount on the house , because he refused to pay the bill, is just a coincidence.

65 posted on 10/07/2010 8:37:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: VRWCmember

Lots of IFs in this situation.


66 posted on 10/07/2010 8:37:19 AM PDT by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: stuartcr

Only becuase they obeyed the terms of the contracts.


67 posted on 10/07/2010 8:39:38 AM PDT by fml
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To: al_c; SumProVita

i agree with both of you

this news has sure brought out the torches and pitchforks gang here

i never agree with them..on this stuff

guess I’m a puss


68 posted on 10/07/2010 8:39:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: 1rudeboy

This is a tough one. I can see both sides, but had I been on the fire department and been there with equipment, I probably would have tried to put it out. I would have also expected to be dismissed from the fire dept for doing it.
I wouldn’t expect others to do the same, and if there’s some legal reason to ‘not fight’ the fire, that would have added an additional decision layer. For example, breach of contract and then we couldn’t fight fires for those who’ve paid - I may have not acted on the non-payers fire.
Completely tough call to make without all the facts.


69 posted on 10/07/2010 8:40:26 AM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: stuartcr
They were there, they could have hosed the place.

The area I used to live in did not have city trash service. There were several services available and you had to pay for one of them to pick up your trash.

Now, that trash truck comes by the house, every week. But... if I don't pay, they don't pick up the trash.

70 posted on 10/07/2010 8:41:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: LADY J
From what I’ve heard - 3 dogs and a cat died in that house fire!!!

And another house caught fire.

It's called being penny smart and pound foolish.

71 posted on 10/07/2010 8:42:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers - AL West Champions)
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To: LADY J

That’s real nice, letting the animals die also.....


72 posted on 10/07/2010 8:42:18 AM PDT by geege
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To: UCANSEE2

The bible? Really? LoL

20 minutes? The neighbors also asked for them to put out the fire.

Everyone deserves decency $75 is not a barometer for who should be treated decent and who should not.


73 posted on 10/07/2010 8:42:57 AM PDT by blarney
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To: UCANSEE2

If you are implying he made the conscientious decision not to cover his house so he could torch it that’s a possibility I would not deny...of course proving it would be next to impossible!


74 posted on 10/07/2010 8:44:44 AM PDT by ontap
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To: blarney

Good for you..

and you and your family are all firemen but free republic’s resident arbiters of housefire extinguishment etiquette know better than you

thanks for what you do

i’m with you

some of these freepers sound like anal litigants

(even some I like usually otherwise..and who will now come to get me)

but I’m off to Texas this afternoon so flay away


75 posted on 10/07/2010 8:46:13 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: Catholic Examiner

Participation in a Volunteer Fire Department plan is like participation in a health insurance policy. If the insurer accepts anyone regardless of pre-existing conditions(already cancerous or already on fire) then there is no incentive for anyone to buy the insurance until he is sick or until his house is burning. The insurer(a voluntary FD subscription is insurance) could only lose money and could not long remain extant. Every transaction would be at a loss.


76 posted on 10/07/2010 8:48:05 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: geege
That’s real nice, letting the animals die also.....

The neighbors said that he had about 20 minutes before the fire got bad enough that one couldn't enter. If true, he could have rescued his pets. Arguing with firemen because you didn't pay for their services while your own pets die is what's 'real nice'.

77 posted on 10/07/2010 8:50:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Venturer

The FD certainly should not have responded in the first place, knowing the fellow had declined the subscription.


78 posted on 10/07/2010 8:52:42 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Venturer

Yes, I am covered by socialsim w/ regards to fire protection. Through not choice of my own.

And not dobut it costs me much much more than $75 week. Have to pay the union firemen and their bennies and retirement of course.

However, were I not, I can assure you I’d pay the $75 for the “insurance”.


79 posted on 10/07/2010 8:53:21 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: blarney
The bible? Really? LoL

Really. You can read the two parables at this link.

Passage: Matthew 25 (ESV Bible Online)

80 posted on 10/07/2010 8:56:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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