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To: metmom; kosta50
Says k50, "What do you think John 6:55 means when he says "For my flesh is real *(or true) food and my blood is real* (or true) drink"? And when says n Matthew 26:26 "Jesus took the bread...saying this is my body..."? *ἀληθῶς = truly, really" I ask what does John 15:1 mean when Jesus says, "I am the vine the true (true, really), and the Father of me the farmer is"?
5,109 posted on 12/10/2010 9:16:25 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
We can just stay in John 6....

35Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day."

Here, taking this literally, Jesus is saying He's made out of dough.....

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And John 6 after people leave for taking offense at the thought of eating His literal flesh and blood, He says this....

60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" 61But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, "Do you take offense at this? 62Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

The flesh is no help at all. It bears repeating. Eating His actual flesh and blood does nothing, by His own words.

5,110 posted on 12/10/2010 9:26:10 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: count-your-change; metmom
I ask what does John 15:1 mean when Jesus says, "I am the vine the true (true, really), and the Father of me the farmer is"?

That he is exaggerating.

5,116 posted on 12/10/2010 12:02:25 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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