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To: boatbums; The Theophilus; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg
What you have been convinced is the true church is simply a church that at one time was local (Rome), small and independent in it's hierarchy

Where did you get that? The Early Church (pre-Constantine) was far less centralized than the Roman Catholic Church is today, for reasons of being underground for most of its early life and the logisticsl impossibility of robust communication. These were local Churches in obedience to their bishops, and most important Churches were not even the Church in Rome. But they were all Catholic Chruches because they believed the same thing; when one or more Churches deviated in anything doctrinal, an apostle would write the letter to fix the problem, and after the passing on of the Apostles, a figure of inherited apostolic authority would do the correcting, or a Church Council would be held. This was nothing like the Protestant system os self-appointed pastors and divergent doctrines.

how is it that you can enjoy the liberty in Christ of practices of minor theological importance, yet deny that same liberty to others who are in Christ every much as you?

Again, where is it that I denied you following whatever practice you have? The problem the Protestants have -- all of them, whether they recognize it or not -- is that they do not obey the scripture because of the error that unites, them, the false doctrines of Faith Alone and Bible Alone. That I deny you because it is error and endangers your salvation gravely. That on top of that you are doctrinally diverse is merely a testimony to the absence of divine leadership, but you surely have the freedom to follow your consceinces, at least in the political sense.

6,400 posted on 01/01/2011 8:45:58 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; boatbums; The Theophilus; metmom; RnMomof7; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; HossB86; ...
Protestants...all of them...because of the error that unites them, the false doctrines of Faith Alone and Bible Alone.

Wow. Splendid. That's probably one of the few times a RC has acknowledged Protestants are united. And united on something as important as "faith alone" in Jesus Christ, made known to us by Scripture alone."

Thank God, we are united on these two righteous principles of Christianity which allude stubborn Rome.

God is good. Thanks for noticing.

6,436 posted on 01/02/2011 10:00:12 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: annalex; boatbums; The Theophilus; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg
Where did you get that? The Early Church (pre-Constantine) was far less centralized than the Roman Catholic Church is today, for reasons of being underground for most of its early life and the logisticsl impossibility of robust communication. These were local Churches in obedience to their bishops, and most important Churches were not even the Church in Rome. But they were all Catholic Chruches because they believed the same thing; when one or more Churches deviated in anything doctrinal, an apostle would write the letter to fix the problem, and after the passing on of the Apostles, a figure of inherited apostolic authority would do the correcting, or a Church Council would be held. This was nothing like the Protestant system os self-appointed pastors and divergent doctrines.

The above, while fictional, does not begin to meet the standard set by Lewis Carroll.

You would have no organized Church and no Papacy prior to Constantine. I agree, but you have strayed from the "official" account.

6,565 posted on 01/03/2011 1:10:57 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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