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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; metmom; Quix
It happened with such as Mussolini and Hitler and Lenin who were trying to get people to give them power. It happened with such as Jim Jones and Joseph Smith and Rex Humbard who were after people's souls - and money.

Hi. I'm back after a delightful vacation and happened to noticed this. I'm sorry but there have been a number of posts that have gone by and I have not read all of them. However, this did catch my attention.

Surely you are not saying that the Catholic Church has never been about people's souls and money? It should be noted how the Vatican was virtually penniless after the "Holy Wars" and the cash needed to build the Vatican. It was all that "jiggling" of cash that was the driver of the Reformation.

When will the Vatican open up the Vatican vaults so that we can see what's in it?

6,493 posted on 01/02/2011 4:08:33 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

INDEED.

BTW, as far as I know,

Rex Humbard did a pretty good job.

I don’t know about all his relatives involved.


6,494 posted on 01/02/2011 4:32:48 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HarleyD

Here’s a decent Wiki article on Humbard:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Humbard


6,495 posted on 01/02/2011 4:36:43 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HarleyD
Surely you are not saying that the Catholic Church has never been about people's souls and money? It should be noted how the Vatican was virtually penniless after the "Holy Wars" and the cash needed to build the Vatican. It was all that "jiggling" of cash that was the driver of the Reformation.

The Church saved Europe from the Muslims a couple of times, sure. The second attack on Venice was done at the invitation of whom??? And what did all of that cost???

Now, did the German bishops act in a truly Christian manner? Unfortunately, no. The Reformation was fuelled in part by that, certainly. It succeeded because of the drive for power by the German princes, but it started because of the practices of the Church, sure.

When will the Vatican open up the Vatican vaults so that we can see what's in it?

Being a little presumptuous? When is your church going to open its vaults so we can see what's in it? Or you, for that instance? Are you prepared to air all of your own dirty laundry to the world for the amusement and edification of every individual in the world?

6,503 posted on 01/02/2011 5:06:52 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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