Notre Dame silent on teen's death

Chicago Tribune ^ | 11-21-10 | Stacy St. Clair and Todd Lighty

[mlizzy]

Distressing!
South Bend Tribune
University statement

[fieldmarshaldj]

Sad. RIP.

[cherry]

funny how the most oppressive secrecy occurs at our universities, that apparently don't believe they need to be open and honest with its students..

but don't you dare wear a confederate flag shirt!

[shibumi]

The University has lost its soul.

Color me "Not Surprised" - this institution is dead to me - and has been since last year.

(ND Alum, classes of '70 & '75)

[mlizzy]

With the suicide/sexual assault story still unfolding, I think it best for me not to offer my personal views but rather simply to provide this information for you to evaluate. The University issued a statement today that is singularly uninformative, but presumably there will be more to come sooner or later. The issue will be whether Notre Dame will be shown to have acted with the even-handed justice and compassion and keen sensitivity to high moral values that should be the hallmark of a Catholic university. I think I am safe in saying that, correctly or not, the reports at the moment draw all of this into question. --Bill Dempsey, Project Sycamore

[MichaelCorleone]

Isn’t Notre Dame the school that invited the Kenyan to speak, even though he’s a pro-death zealot?

[mlizzy]

It’s getting more and more painful. My husband is ND ‘81. Three of his siblings are alum, his father, his cousins, and his niece is ND ‘13. We still pray for the University [a lot], and my husband watches their football games, but this is horrible. Joe Scheidler from Pro-Life Action League, brought Jenkins aside at the March for Life, Washington, earlier this year, because Jenkins refused to meet with Joe (an alum as well) privately, and Scheidler said talking to Jenkins was like talking to a stone.

[mlizzy]

Yes, that’s unfortunately correct.

[shibumi]

".....Scheidler said talking to Jenkins was like talking to a stone."

A hardened heart will do that.

That bastard put an 80 year old priest in jail for singing hymns while embracing the Demon who inhabits the White House.

I could not be more done with them and all their ilk.

[mlizzy]

Exactly! I want the University to survive, but I want so much for Jenkins to no longer be at the helm.

[shibumi]

I predict you’ll be seeing a lot more shameful stories.

And that’s the safest prediction I’ve ever made.

[MacMattico]

Sadly, we probably won't hear much more about this until the guy is of no use on the field anymore or until he strikes again. With ND’s record this year, hopefully the former will come sooner then latter.

Yeah, I know, innocent until proven guilty— then stop trying to hide the initial report. If the guy is a rapist, she is sadly probably not the first or last victim.

[mlizzy]

A long time ago, my husband started up an apostolate, if you will, called Suffering Irish. He has a simple site that needs revamping to bring it current to what's going on at ND today, but I've always loved the idea behind it, and I've offered up my suffering as a member. The idea was borne from Mother Teresa's Sick and Suffering Co-Workers, but also in part from letters that Lou Holtz received as a coach from sick children. Tom has mentioned these letters in his book and different articles he's written. His book was written a while ago, Champions of Faith, but is timeless in nature.

Here's his Web site in regard to the Suffering Irish. I know you've had it with the University (and I don't blame you at all), but if you would like to join (just to pray), please let us know.

[bwc2221]

This isn't the first time this has happened at ND. I lived in Elkhart (15 miles from ND) in the 1980s and there was an alleged rape case involving several football players that the University hushed up.

[denydenydeny]

Campus authorities did not tell the St. Joseph County Police Department investigating Seeberg's death about her report of a sexual attack, county officials said.

From the school that demands prosecution of people holding up pro-life signs at the Obama speech.

Every single administrator at Notre Dame needs to be fired. Every one.

[mlizzy]

I’ll have to ask my husband if he recalls that, as he graduated in ‘81. I guess I can’t blame Obama (and of course Jenkins!) for all of this then. The hushing up of the story makes the whole thing that much worse, though.

[bwc2221]

Unfortunately, there are very few Catholic colleges that are truly Catholic any more. I graduated from a Jesuit university and my daughter is a senior at a Catholic high school. We are just looking at state colleges. Why spend three times the tuition for a so-called Catholic college?

[mlizzy]

From the school that demands prosecution of people holding up pro-life signs at the Obama speech. Every single administrator at Notre Dame needs to be fired. Every one.

They have a few good administrators at ND (we confer with Charlie Rice from time to time and he fills us in on that), but otherwise, I'm in agreement with you ...

[stormer]

Yeah, cause the church is always on the up and up.