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"This could be the case of the picture of the family in the center of the Virgin's eye," the scientist said, "at a time when the family is under serious attack in our modern world."

The family started to disintegrate back when contraception was first introduced. Prayers for all families.

1 posted on 12/09/2010 8:40:58 AM PST by Salvation
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2 posted on 12/09/2010 8:44:12 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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4 posted on 12/09/2010 8:49:26 AM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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I hadn't heard of the smaller family image. It would be great to see these scenes printed out. And I'll echo you, prayers for all families.
5 posted on 12/09/2010 8:51:13 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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Though the dimensions are microscopic, the iris and the pupils of the image's eyes have imprinted on them a highly detailed picture of at least 13 people, [José Aste Tonsmann of the Mexican Center of Guadalupan Studies] said. The same people are present in both the left and right eyes, in different proportions, as would happen when human eyes reflect the objects before them. Tonsmann said he believes the reflection transmitted by the eyes of the Virgin of Guadalupe is the scene on Dec. 9, 1531, during which Juan Diego showed his tilma, with the image, to Bishop Juan de Zumárraga and others present in the room....

....He magnified the iris of the Virgin's eyes 2,500 times and, through mathematical and optical procedures, was able to identify all the people imprinted in the eyes. The eyes reflect the witnesses of the Guadalupan miracle the moment Juan Diego unfurled his tilma before the bishop, according to Tonsmann.

In the eyes, Tonsmann believes, it is possible to discern a seated Indian, who is looking up to the heavens; the profile of a balding, elderly man with a white beard, much like the portrait of Bishop Zumárraga painted by Miguel Cabrera to depict the miracle; and a younger man, in all probability interpreter Juan González. Also present is an Indian, likely Juan Diego, of striking features with a beard and mustache, who unfolds his own tilma before the bishop; a woman of dark complexion, possibly a Negro slave who was in the bishop's service; and a man with Spanish features who looks on pensively, stroking his beard with his hand.

In summary, the Virgin's eyes bear a kind of instant picture of what occurred at the moment the image was unveiled in front of the bishop, Tonsmann says.

Any photographs available of this magnified image?

9 posted on 12/09/2010 9:41:33 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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Richard Kuhn, the 1938 Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, found that the image did not have natural animal or mineral colorings. …

In 1979, Americans Philip Callahan and Jody B. Smith studied the image with infrared rays …

Can anyone reference the actual studies where these claims allegedly originate?

11 posted on 12/09/2010 11:36:41 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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In January 2001, Dr. Jose Aste Tonsmann, now with the Mexican Center of Guadalupan Studies, revealed at a conference at the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum in Rome that advances in digital photography now revealed that the images in the Virgin's eyes were those assembled with Bishop Juan de Zumarraga when Juan Diego first unfurled his tilma and displayed the miraculous image. By magnifying the iris of the Virgin's eyes 2,500 times and, through mathematical and optical procedures, Aste Tonsmann feels that he is able to identify all the people imprinted in the eyes. In other words, the Virgin's eyes bear a kind of instant photograph of what occurred the moment the image was unveiled before the bishop.

(Virgin of Guadalupe )

How is the good doctor able to identify people that allegedly lived four or five centuries go?

Has anyone bothered to peer review the good doctor’s scientific findings?

12 posted on 12/09/2010 12:21:12 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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21 posted on 12/09/2010 2:50:35 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy.)
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27 posted on 12/09/2010 8:49:24 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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This is just so inspiring. Praise our glorious God for allowing man to develop the technology to study such miracles.


29 posted on 12/10/2010 6:23:32 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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