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Mormon Lies that can blind us
Mormon Chapbook ^ | Mike Tea

Posted on 12/11/2010 11:46:45 AM PST by delacoert

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To: Paragon Defender; All
Seekers of truth


41 posted on 12/11/2010 1:10:47 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Graybeard58

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42 posted on 12/11/2010 1:11:16 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: Hoodat

>>> Gee, yet another Mormon-bashing thread. Can you feel the hate?

I wonder how Mormans would react to a “New” prophet allegedly originating from Morman ranks who claimed that he saw God while on a camping trip, and that God told him that Mormonism had lost it’s way and had become an ABOMINATION before Him, and further directed this new prophet to re-discover the gold plates and write the book of mormon again from scratch.

What if this new book of mormon then proceeded to describe abomination after abomination committed by the previous mormon believers including Joseph Smith, and then established a new order which teaches doctrines completely contrary to traditional mormon beliefs?

Then.... If the traditional mormons do react by attacking the claims of the new prophet, should the new prophet call it “religion bashing”???

Who is bashing who here? The BOM IS the epitome of religion bashing and worse... it is the hijacking of a religion (or faith) as well.

If Joseph Smith had spun a completely different yarn that did not involve traditional Christianity at all, that would be one thing. What he did do is another.


43 posted on 12/11/2010 1:11:24 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: GourmetDan

Thanks Gourmet. :)


44 posted on 12/11/2010 1:13:34 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: MuttTheHoople; NoRedTape
There’s something very plastic about Mormons personally, sorta like watching an episode of a 1950’s sitcom.

As a youngster, my first impression of Mormons was that they were similar in practice to the Amish. At least the adults.

Most of the Mormon kids I knew were anything BUT the angels their parents thought they had.

45 posted on 12/11/2010 1:14:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Jen Shroder

Jen -
Mormon Jesus is a created being, elder brother (literally) to humans as well as brother to satan. The mormon Jesus is not God the Son, He is but one of a plethora of ‘gods’ in the mormon pantheon of gods. The mormon Jesus cannot save one from their sins - mormons must become sinless before the grace of Jesus can be applied.

There are many more things many mormons believe about Jesus that are more disputed but the above are clear - the Jesus of mormonism is not the same as Christianity.


46 posted on 12/11/2010 1:16:32 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Jen Shroder
I think only God and His angels are qualified to separate the wheat from the tares, no?

__________________________________________

NO

47 posted on 12/11/2010 1:17:21 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Safrguns

I haven’t seen Mormons bash the Bible, is that true? I haven’t seen it. If so, the leaders will have a lot of ‘splainin to do.

Bottom line, do Mormons believe Jesus died and rose again in payment for our sins? Because I believe if the foundation is Christ, and God knows the hearts, then any leader of any denomination is going to be in trouble for misdirecting the flock, but the flock will still be His if they put their trust in Christ.

What is there about the Mormon church that denies the glory and power of Jesus Christ?

The rest just sounds like noise to me, like battling over speaking in tongues or a thousand different other differences between denominations.


48 posted on 12/11/2010 1:18:08 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: Jen Shroder

I think only God and His angels are qualified to separate the wheat from the tares, no?
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No angel would presume to do the work of God...

The angels worship the LORD Jesus Christ...

They dont surplant Him in His right to be Judge...


50 posted on 12/11/2010 1:19:03 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla

whoah, they don’t believe Christ died for their sins and He rose again?

serious?

if that’s true then I’m backing outta this fight, ducking out the door ————————>

I did not know that


51 posted on 12/11/2010 1:20:00 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: ozzymandus; Religion Moderator
Thanks for the spelling correction. You may be interest in the Religion forum guidelines available on the Religion Moderator's profile page.

Since you are entering into discussions here on the Religion forum you might want to notice the cautions about being "thin-skinned" and "making it personal".

Just so you understand, I object to being called a bigot on the Religion forum. It is an epithet that makes things personal.

52 posted on 12/11/2010 1:20:18 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Safrguns
Great post! Bears repeating!

I wonder how Mormans would react to a “New” prophet allegedly originating from Morman ranks who claimed that he saw God while on a camping trip, and that God told him that Mormonism had lost it’s way and had become an ABOMINATION before Him, and further directed this new prophet to re-discover the gold plates and write the book of mormon again from scratch.

What if this new book of mormon then proceeded to describe abomination after abomination committed by the previous mormon believers including Joseph Smith, and then established a new order which teaches doctrines completely contrary to traditional mormon beliefs?

Then.... If the traditional mormons do react by attacking the claims of the new prophet, should the new prophet call it “religion bashing”???

Who is bashing who here? The BOM IS the epitome of religion bashing and worse... it is the hijacking of a religion (or faith) as well.

If Joseph Smith had spun a completely different yarn that did not involve traditional Christianity at all, that would be one thing. What he did do is another.

Thanks!

53 posted on 12/11/2010 1:20:45 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (T Roosevelt said speak softly, carry a big stick. ObamaÂ’s talking trash and carrying a broken stic)
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To: SaxxonWoods; delacoert
“Lies are at the foundation of organized religion.”

I disagree.

Truths are at the foundation of organized religion. Truths that are the concepts on how to live a 'Christian' life. That the 'details' are argued over (and have since the beginning of time) and that different 'people' have different 'versions' is unavoidable.

It's the CONCEPTS that are important, and while they are fairly obvious, they seem to be the hardest thing to understand and follow.

54 posted on 12/11/2010 1:21:08 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Tennessee Nana

With all due respect, I’m pretty sure the Bible says He sends His angels out to separate the wheat from the tares. I’ll look it up but I’m real sure it’s there


55 posted on 12/11/2010 1:21:26 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: Jen Shroder

do Mormons believe Jesus died and rose again in payment for our sins?
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No

They believe their mormon jesus just sweated in tghe Garden of Gethsemanee...

Sccording to the mormons the Cross ha=s noithing to do with what they call “atonement”...

They also believe that the blood their mormon jesus (who was just once a man) is not strong enough to cover sin

(or pay for their sins...

They have to save themselves and their ancestors through necro water baptism...

(Thats what the multi million dollar mormon temples are built for...)

ancestor worship....


56 posted on 12/11/2010 1:23:54 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: delacoert

57 posted on 12/11/2010 1:24:40 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: Frapster
particularly since Mormonism is gaining ground in its political influence.

Well, they are going to have to get in line with the Muslims.

58 posted on 12/11/2010 1:25:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Jen Shroder

>>> I haven’t seen Mormons bash the Bible, is that true? I haven’t seen it. If so, the leaders will have a lot of ‘splainin to do.

They don’t need to when their cannon of scripture does such an excellent job of it alone.

When a Mormon stands up and declares that he/she believes Joseph Smith was a prophet, and that the BOM is the word of God, they are stating emphatically that EVERYTHING in the BOM is true... You cannot have it both ways. If you stand behind Joseph Smith, you stand behind everything he said or wrote in the name of God... and if what he wrote did not come from God, that leaves you with the ruler of this world as your deity.


59 posted on 12/11/2010 1:25:39 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: UCANSEE2

That's the way Mormons paint Him and Joseph Smith in a couple famous paintings that I've seen, but not any of the famous paintings of Christ by Christian artists.

60 posted on 12/11/2010 1:27:53 PM PST by delacoert
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