Posted on 12/19/2010 11:05:46 PM PST by bibletruth
Martin Luther wrote: I am much afraid that the schools will prove the very gates of hell unless they diligently labor in explaining the Holy Scriptures...
I am much afraid that the schools will prove the very gates of hell unless they diligently labor in explaining the Holy Scriptures...
I advise no one to place his child where the Scriptures do not reign paramount.
Most excellent advise, I only found this quote today, but I have followed this advise from my own discovery of what the public schools have failed (sic) to offer: that being the Holy Scriptures and the Word of God - the Bible. Which if read and studied by a child throughout their lives, they grow up disciplined and fearing God Almighty.
And for those who argue - "Separation of Church and State" - that fittingly proves that the public schools are the very gates of hell: leading a child to hell by the public schools anti-GOD stand and teachings of hedonistic pleasures of life... These type of teachings will certainly open the door to lead a child to the wide gate unto hell without any defense by the fear of God nor the defense shield of faith against the fiery darts of the evil one [e.g., Devil] [Ephesians 6:6]!
...and I am talking about “true” Christian Biblical Education, i.e., home-schooling or Christian schooling which teaches the Holy Scriptures from GOD’s Word, not man’s tradition, nor man’s wisdom, which cannot compare with GOD’s wisdom...
Good find.
The backdrop of public schools in the US always was the Christian paradigm up until Dewey and the Progressives wiped it out. The early McGuffey Reader (public schools) was filled with God and Christian morality. It was the backbone of the curricula. (Of course, children younger than 7 were not in institutions being brainwashed....they were home getting a moral foundation and learning to be independent and not conformists.)
Dewey wanted younger and younger children into forced schooling because their brains were “plastic” and it was easier to dictate the “proper” ideas they should have and make them conform in groups using humiliation for those who dared to disagree. The formative years are the first seven....that is why NAMBLA motto is: If not by eight, then it is too late.
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He (Dewey and the Progressives) inserted moral relativism which destroys children’s ability to believe in moral absolutes.....it is brainwashing into secular humanism (Darwinism and Marxism).
Most educated people only had the bible in the home in early America and were only exposed to schooling for a few years out of their life. Lincoln had less than one year of public schooling. He was self taught.
Dewey was evil. Truly. He loved the german school model. He also pushed as much as possible to get religion out of school and teach ‘community morals’. Where he was in the country (northeast for part of his time) was unitarian and they all hated Christianity (Trinity) and were hell-bent on getting Christian morals and anything Christian out of the schools.
The local Christian school in my town New Hampshire is teaching Socal Justice. There is noway I’m sending my child to school there.
Avoiding public schools is a must as they are nothing but government schools instilling propaganda not education.
Education and prophecy ping
The Underground History of American Education by Gato has a lot of interesting facts that can be verified. He did a thorough job of tracing the ideas and methods inserted into public education.
The Closing of the American Mind by Bloom also traces a lot of the ideology that infected American Universities back as far as 1880 to the Postmodern German philosophers who were anti-John Locke—to put it mildly. They believed in no objective truth and moral absolutes. It was the end of reason and logic (modernism) and the idea that human nature and the Constitution do not evolve.
It was the beginning of mass indoctrination using the public schools as reeducation centers—to undo the destructive influence and thinking of Christian families.
ping to interesting quote.
You but one "Christian" school in the area?
If a professing Christian school is teaching social justice (I assume you mean the modern civil rights/ACLU type), then maybe it is not truly Christian and should not be dignified by calling it a "Christian" school.
I agree. You are obviously keeping a good eye on all schools. “Social Justice” is a perversion of the Gospel and is getting to be pervasive even in private Christian schools.
It is always wise to see what the curriculum is first.
The government/sic.public school system has increasingly since the sixties progressed at accelerated pace away from the establishment of education in America.The first schools were established Harvard, Yale and the rest to teach the Bible and mans duty to God-then his fellow man. The third article of the Northwest Ordinance twice passed by Congress clearly declared Religion,Morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind ,Schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” They did not intend the godless/sic.secular education that presents itself as American public education today. Home schoolers from Christian homes consistently score higher in educational testing than do their counterparts left behind in public school-God is the answer IMO.
I can certainly agree on this one. Most of the Colleges in this country were first established as Christian based institutions. I grew up in a Christian home went to a Christian grade school and High School and will forever be thankful. We do have a problem however with even today’s Churches which have become more and more secularized. It’s going to take true Christians getting back to Biblically based small Churches or even home groups of study like it was in the Bible days.
Christians getting back to Biblically based small Churches or even home groups of study like it was in the Bible days.
I submit that it is precisely that reason that we got into so much trouble.
Too much emphasis is put on process, a gimmick, or some other form of external methods, and not enough on the integrity of the Word. Back when I was unregenerate in the Big Box American Religion, I attended all kinds of home groups, retreats and study groups. I went to large mega churches and small. While attending, I thought I was being fed real spiritual food, and thought I had real mastery of the Bible until I ran into some people unaffiliated with all of that American Religion dreck - people who considered "Men are from Mars, Women from Venus" and "The Purpose Driven ____" as flotsam and jetsam. That was a humbling experience.
Looking back, I remember the way these home study groups worked, mostly fellowship, recipe swapping and talk of lawn care and movie reviews. We read from pop psychology books, pseudo devotionals like "The Prayer of Jabez" and then sat around making stupid opinions on how this effects my life and what I can do to make this transform me. I am sure now that this made God vomit.
A FB friend innocently put up a link of what I think sums up the problem. This offends me at so many levels. This isn't a house of worship, its a performance/sound stage and concert hall. Do these cast-offs look like ordained ministers? Is their "music" honoring to God or to secular ideas of Christmas? There is no talent, polished with thousands of hours of practice and dedication, they are playing a stupid video games downloaded from the internet while swaying around like XTC juiced up prostitutes at a gay bar. What in Hell is fuzzy reindeer antlers doing on stage during an alleged Christmas worship service?
It ain't just the schools, we gladly let the enemy take over our headquarters and raise their flags in our house of worship. This is mockery of God and everything that He stands for. Small study groups are led by social butterflies who only glance at a Cliff-Notes version of a heavily paraphrased Bible prior to suggesting what is most often heretical commentary on things they know very little about. It is giving the middle finger to those who have spent years of time in the Word and on their knees, learning the languages, studying the doctrines and the teachings of great theologians in the past. Their idea of deep is misquoting something from C.S. Lewis' "Screwtape Letters". It isn't the Older teaching the Younger as the Bible commands, rather it is the blind peer leading the blind.
Though there are exceptions, I am under the impression that those who Home School often have a more comprehensive approach to knowing God to that even in their choice where to worship, with whom they fellowship, and in their choices of avocations, literature and entertainment. My praise for their efforts knows no bounds.
Yes, the government schools are evil, without exception. Sending your child there is prima facie evidence of child abuse. If there is a way to steer your child into Hell more efficiently, the government schools have adopted and polished that methodology to an art. I reserve the high levels of contempt for unionized government school teachers, placing fourth to politicians and to demons. But at the very top comes the clergy of the American Religion, who deserve not only the mill-stone around the neck, but first to be weakened with a thorough horsewhipping for the wanton and deliberate damage that they have done to the Church.
I praise God daily for saving me and sanctifying me and my family from the outer darkness of the Premillennial Dispensationalist, Free Will, Seeker Sensitive American Religion.
for those of you that think social justice is a perversion of the Gospel, how do you deal with the following passages?
John the Baptist prepares the way...
Luke 3.7-14 - highlights: live a life that shows repentance, share with those who have none, don’t rip people off and don’t extort
Jesus reads Isaiah and reveals His mission...
Luke 4.18-19 - “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight to the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
The Sheep and the Goats...
Matthew 25.31-46 - what you did for the least of these, you did to me...
The church mission...
Acts 1.8 - “you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
Social Justice is a part of the Gospel, certainly not a perversion...
For more info, read:
Deuteronomy (notice the repetition of aliens, orphans & widows)
Isaiah 58 (two big sins of Israel - idolatry & neglecting the poor)
Amos (same as above)
Micah (simply put Micah 6.6-8)
Our Good News is Good News for all people! And God expects His people to be the ones that proclaim it!
>>Christians getting back to Biblically based small Churches or even home groups of study like it was in the Bible days<<
>>I submit that it is precisely that reason that we got into so much trouble.<<
Did you miss the part of my comment about “Biblically based”? You mention the small study groups you attended then describe how they used everything but the Bible. You describe Churches incorporating things never found or taught in the Bible. While your article is rather discombobulated it would appear that what you experienced was so far from being Biblically based that it had nothing to do with my comment on “Biblically based small Churches or even home groups”.
Your last comment about “Premillennial Dispensationalist” left no doubt about where you stand on that however. Perhaps you experiences there were as well less then Biblically based.
You evidently didn't notice my qualification . . . "modern civil rights/ACLU" type of social justice, which is NOT Biblical justice at all.
Did you miss the part of my comment about “Biblically based”?
In all due respect CynicalBear, the phrase "Biblically based" is empty in its meaning since EVERY denomination, especially the American Religion, sincerely believes that what they are doing is "biblically based".
Pick your topic, any topic; Free Will? Calvinists, Arminians, Pelagians, Amyraldians all feel that their soteriology is "Biblically based" when logic tells us that no more than one is biblically correct. While we can't even agree on the most fundamental doctrine of Soteriology, neither do we agree on basic Christology, the Eucharist, Eschatology, the definition of The Church, the doctrines of Grace, Redemption, Baptism, the Atonement, the Solas, Spiritual gifts, ANYTHING. The Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Reformers, Anglicans, Greek Orthodox, Quakers all claim to be "Biblically based" yet have some of the most animated food-fights that are allegedly based on Scripture.
that what you experienced was so far from being Biblically based that it had nothing to do with my comment on “Biblically based small Churches or even home groups
Amen
I promise you, that if you were to approach any of those I associated with, or for that matter go to any of those that fulfill that description today, that they would take great offense to your suggestion that they are not "biblically based". Just like you take great offense to my rejection of Dispensationalism - even though I can quote Scofield, Lindsey, Pentacost, Walvoord and Ryrie perfectly because I was there with you at one time, they would set the kindling to your feet, branding YOU as a heretic for daring to "judge" them and "question their faith".
I like you, and I appreciate your zeal as you defend what you personally and hopefully sincerely believe is to be true, because I see myself twenty years ago in what you post here. I also pray that you become uncomfortable with the violence to Scripture that your present beliefs do and that you are challenged to at least take an honest and open look at what the Church has faithfully believed for millennia before Darby's legacy.
From that post I would suggest that you simply went from one system of beliefs to another and that one to be correct but are not terribly sure at this point. You were proven incorrect on certain points of that original belief and rejected all elements of that belief system?
If you don’t believe in the dispensational view which view did you adopt?
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