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To: triumphant values

You wrote:

“Deportation is not a punishment. It’s just righting a previous wrong.”

Deporting someone to a country he doesn’t even know is a punishment. The suffering seems out of proportion to his action (which was NOTHING since he wasn’t the one who violated the law).

“You don’t get to keep a stolen bicycle, just because you didn’t know it was stolen and fell in love with it.”

No, you don’t, but then again they don’t burn down your house because your dad stole the neighbor’s bike either. To automatically assume someone should lose the only homeland he has any knowledge of because of what dad or mom did seems excessive.

“The police officer checks the serial number, determines it is one reported stolen, and returns it to its rightful owner. That’s not punishing you.”

Your analogy doesn’t work. It would at least work better if you used a house rather than a bike.


48 posted on 12/23/2010 11:27:29 AM PST by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: vladimir998
The suffering seems out of proportion to his action (which was NOTHING since he wasn’t the one who violated the law).

They DO know they're breaking the law. That's why they're protesting all over in public for the DREAM Act. How dense are you?

Your analogy doesn’t work.

It works fine. You just don't like it because the grounds crew has to scramble around the field so much carrying those heavy goal posts.

It would at least work better if you used a house rather than a bike.

Oh, so what, you're arguing for "squatters' rights"?

51 posted on 12/23/2010 11:33:33 AM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: vladimir998
No, you don’t, but then again they don’t burn down your house because your dad stole the neighbor’s bike either.

Now if anyone wants an example of an analogy that doesn't work, here's a great example here. This is about as non-sequitur as they come.

54 posted on 12/23/2010 11:37:26 AM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: vladimir998

Oh, spare me. If these “children” are so in love with the United States and want to become American citizens and show allegiance ONLY to the UNited States, then why do so many of them wave the Mexican flag, embrace the MEChA and LaRaza goal of reconquista (MEChA, if you don’t know, is a STUDENT organization, and one that is very much accepted by latino students), and badmouth the United States wth every breath? I don’t know where you’re from, but I was born and raised in Southern California, and I left there in the late 1970s because I saw way back then where the state was headed, and MEChA and LaRaza were in everyone’s face re: mexico first! latino first! chicano first! You perhaps should familiarize yourself with MEChA’s stated goals, which is that the United States must become a “bronze nation,” and that those Americans of European ancestry must be eliminated, by force if necessary.


80 posted on 12/25/2010 3:37:30 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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