Posted on 12/26/2010 5:29:46 PM PST by Colofornian
After all this; that PRESBYTERIAN thingy sounds AWFULLY dull!
You’re right. The Mormons are the only religion that asks for donations or tithing. /s
Remember Elsie, I photographed weddings for years. All those so-called religious professionals are after the money. If you have a building, you have to pay for it.
What religion uses homes as a house of worship; it has no churches?
Actually we use a Charter School - they don't charge us anything.
BTW, we are Christian.
Point taken. You are an exceptional person.
We use our school, we own the building and it is already paid for through the office. We donate the church space (and don’t take tax break for it either).
My former pastor worked 2 other jobs to help support himself and his family rather than take a salary for many years. His truck was donated (1987). Many other churches do the same.
Most LDS brag about not having ‘paid clergy’ but there are a couple of downsides to that. First off, my pastors “JOB” is to take care of the congregation, he devotes all of his time to that and that is what they should do. Mormon bishops are stretched far too thin to be good pastors.
No pastor I know is in it ‘for the money’. The barely squeak by, and are motivated by a love for the Lord and a personal (not church) calling. The same is true for the ministry to the LDS - no one gets rich off of it.
Secondly, much of the tithing ends up going to SLC and funneled into corporations and business interests. My church (and no other churches I know of) own malls and shopping centers, the LDS does.
Finally, other churches take donations/tithing but don’t hold Heaven out as a carrot stick like the LDS do. IOW, if you are LDS, you pay tithing or you aren’t considered ‘worthy’ to hold callings or go to the temple. No Temple, no Celestial kingdom (Heaven). That isn’t giving to God, that is spiritual extortion.
Please understand that when people combine their teamed theological beliefs with their belief in spritiual superiority (their egos) we will see a lot of ugliness. It's a bad mixture. Although some good points are "scored," some people just can't support themselves without cutting down others.
LOL!
But the crowds get too big and they HAVE to have bigger quarters.
Back in the 1960s, 70s the mormons were still saying “Dont call us Christians. We’re not hristians. We’re mormons”
Back when Joey Smith first invented his new religion and on the mormon religious leaders were denouncing Christianity as evil and replacing it with their mormonism..
“What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world”
- Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270
“The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God”
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 171
“Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century.”
- John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 6, p. 167
“What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing... Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God.”
- John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225
“Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon’ whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent.”
- Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255
“The Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called”
- Wilford Woodruff, Journal of Discourses, v. 2, p. 196
“After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon.”
- George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p. 324
“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46
President Gordon Hinckley speaking on the identity of the Mormon Jesus back in 1998.
“In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints ‘do not believe in the traditional Christ.’ (He said) ‘No, I don’t. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fulness (sic) of Times...In this dispensation, the Lord has declared that this Church is “the only true and living Church upon the face of the whole earth.’”
- LDS Church News Archives, Saturday, June 20, 1998 reporting on Hinckley’s speech to 6,600 missionaries assembled in Paris.
In America there is a whole Christian denomination that meets ONLY in homes. In China, Christianity is a home church movement.
bttt
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True, but they don't tell you if you pay a certain amount you can be "exalted*" in the next life.
*exalted = godhood
She doesn’t know him.
So why do the LDS?
Robert Tilton and CC (and other televangelists) are con men, NOT pastors.
Again no real pastor I know is in it to get rich. If they are in it for the money, then they aren’t Christians in the first place.
You said lease understand that when people combine their teamed theological beliefs with their belief in spritiual superiority (their egos) we will see a lot of uglines”
I agree completely. That is a perfect description of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young et all.
OK, kettle.
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