What did Jesus (not) say about... His mother, Mary?

Pyromanics ^ | 12/31/2010 | Dan Phillips

[Secret Agent Man]

Let me get this correct, this is the strongest piece of Scripture you muster up to prove that Jesus did not have other brothers and sisters? Wow.

Have you any recollect of who was actually physically present at the cross of Jesus? could it not be that the very reason was none of his brothers and sisters were there and Jesus wanted to not only show his concern for his mom, but also for John, who perhaps also needed someone like Mary?

This has to be the weakest argument I’ve ever heard for Jesus having no brothers or sisters. It’s like I have no brothers or sisters because they aren’t physically present at some big life event. You know I had friends who got married in an exotic location nobody in their family could make it to, does that mean they don’t have brothers and sisters?

[cva66snipe]

Verse 57 kinda points to it. It's been debated back and forth down through the ages I reckon. Verse 55 James, Joseph, Simon, and Juda as well as sisters could have been Joseph's kids. Yea I know the laws and commandments about caring for parents but remember these were pretty corrupt times. Some of the Priest and leaders in the Temple were robbing widows and for that Christ scorned them. There was another verse where he actually scorned the people for such neglect Matt ch 15 V5.

Another thing to consider is Mary was to continue to be a part of the ministry Christ established so it made sense she would stay with the 12 where they were located rather than 100 miles away if nothing else for her own personal safety. She was an eye witness to His resurrection. The Temple leaders nor Roman government were thrilled about that.

Really about all anyone can do is speculate about that part of Christ life. If it were real important I think it would be in scripture. Obviously Joesph even though he was not the biological father played a very key roll in Christ life. But he gets no mention after taking Christ to The Temple the second time.

I hope you have a Happy New Years too. Signed a fellow goat keper LOL. Herds down to two now though.

[goat granny]

I just asked you a question. But really didn't ask for your family history or who married who and where and how many guests were there and who did not show up...geeze, stick to the subject..

But you trying to read Jesus mind and motivation is also a WOW moment...

Asking a question of you seems that you think I want an argument...not so...so I will take it that you have no answer other than mind reading and motivations of Jesus, without any scripture background..

My question was at least backed by scripture.

Have a Happy & healthy New Year.....

[goat granny]

Your right that a lot is left out. When you talk about corrupt priests and leaders in the temple robbing widows, I didn't know democrats went back that far....:O)

Have a great New Year and what happened to your flock? GG

[Secret Agent Man]

Your response is total babble. Anytime you see me post, feel free not to reply.

[Judith Anne]

Your response is total babble. Anytime you see me post, feel free not to reply.

I thought GG's response was quite clear. On an open thread, anyone can reply to anyone, and frankly, I enjoy her posts and hope she does so frequently. GG and I do not always agree, but neither of us feel a need to get snarky about Christ Jesus. Or His Mom.

[triumphant values]

Except for the stories your religion fabricated out of nothing, there isn't anything to really point to Mary as a role model...

Wow, that's a new low for the Protestant side - Mary doesn't even rise to the level of a "role model".

[goat granny]

One though leads to another and so forth :O) We know that any information in scripture about Jesus early life (of which there are only a couple, IE: visit of the magi, lost for 3 days and found in the temple, the wedding feast etc. would have come via the apostles talking with Mary, I wonder what other stories she had told them...:O) As a mother also, I'll bet there were a lot. Her at the foot of the cross, her at Pentecost, your comment that she took part in the last 3 years of his life gets one thinking in another direction, and wondering... GG

[cva66snipe]

Have a great New Year and what happened to your flock?

Old age mainly and I haven't bred replacements. Lead Nanny died about a month ago at 14 years old. These aren't debudded so the have some sparing scars too. I'm getting to where I can't do the fence maintenance like I once could. So I'll let the remaining ones live out their lives and probably give it up or go to a smaller breed than Nubians and keep a smaller lot.

[goat granny]

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[cva66snipe]

One though leads to another and so forth :O) We know that any information in scripture about Jesus early life (of which there are only a couple, IE: visit of the magi, lost for 3 days and found in the temple, the wedding feast etc. would have come via the apostles talking with Mary, I wonder what other stories she had told them...:O) As a mother also, I'll bet there were a lot. Her at the foot of the cross, her at Pentecost, your comment that she took part in the last 3 years of his life gets one thinking in another direction, and wondering... GG

Her role in helping to establish the early churches would be vital. With her likely following many of Christ trips she would be important for ones like Luke to obtain first hand information if she was still alive during Lukes time in Jerusalem.

[goat granny]

Gee 14 is a ripe old age for a goat..so you must have taken better care of them than you think...Fainting goats are small and there is another small breed, but I cannot think of the name right now....if my brain follows its usual pattern, the name will pop up in my head in about an hour or two...getting old sometimes stinks...LOL you better be able to laugh at yourself if you live into your 6 or 7th decade..As much as I loved my angora's, I couldn't take care of 1 now much less a flock...

Truth be told, I'm too lazy...shhhh don't tell anyone that..

[Salvation]

[bonfire]

Love it! Thank GOD for the Reformers. Amen!

[Salvation]

**The Bible says ALL have sinned **

Even Christ?

[MamaB]

Look it up. Romans 3:23. I am not going to do everything for you. I believe that is the verse. I am very tired and need to go to bed. Have been sick for about a month now.

[Salvation]

Hope you feel better. Have a blessed New Year.

[MamaB]

Have had an URI for weeks and then I started having allergy problems with a severe headache all week so think I will go to bed. Have to get over all of this before heading to the BCS championship game. Can’t believe they had snow today. Just what we need while we are out there. Planning to go to the Grand Canyon too which we may not be able to do if it snows there again. Very unhappy about that if we have to miss that again. :( Have a very blessed and wonderful new year. Guess I will have to stay up a little longer. Are having severe thunderstorms in this part of AL. Daughter said we might get 2-4 inches of rain tonight.

[RobbyS]

Why pray to Mary? Because we want her to pray for us. “Pray for us sinner, now and at the hour of our death.” We belong to a community that reaches from here to eternity.

[RobbyS]

Well, Luke sure wasted his time when he devoted two chapters of his gospel to her. Never mind that one of the most magnificent of hymns passed her lips to be recorded by him for posterity. The modern Marcion.