[geologist]

Having read the majority of the postings to this thread, I see little clarification as to the facts of the Bible. Rather a good deal of time spent either insulting, denigrating or otherwise dissing each other.
When there are basic areas where God left it intentionally (it seems) vague or even hidden ... it is for a purpose. Either he does not want us to know until He opens our eyes to it ... in its time; or we are usurping His position and are athwart with His Word. God's Will, will Be of this we can be certain. Why do we believe He said to trust Him?

Is this discussion done in/with love for each other held in mind and answers created in such a way as to be kind and show loving intentions?

Sorry for butting into this discussion; it seems more like enemies that brothers. MOO

[Quix]

Feel free.

Good points.

However, WHEN I find folks seriously interested in genuine dialogue of a civil sort, I’m happy to rise to the occasion.

When folks seem to be primarily interested in making

ALMIGHTY GOD out to be a liar

and seemingly addictively prone to spewing nonsense to demonized deceptive tripe, I have decreasing patience with such and feel more than a little comfortable telling it like it is, from my perspective.

And today, I have a list of other priorities as well.

[Lee N. Field]

Having read the majority of the postings to this thread, I see little clarification as to the facts of the Bible. Rather a good deal of time spent either insulting, denigrating or otherwise dissing each other.

You're jumping in late into a long running dispute.

When there are basic areas where God left it intentionally (it seems) vague or even hidden ... it is for a purpose.

The bible doesn't tell us everything we want to know. Some people can't handle the uncertainty.