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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

I was baptized and raised Catholic. The Catholic church considered me a Catholic and to hear many talk, still does. Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.

Jesus did NOT establish the Catholic church. It did not come into existence until the time of Constantine. History bears it out whatever delusion the Catholic church operates notwithstanding.

This business of claiming that everything up until that time was by default Catholic is a pretty poor excuse for a major league power grab.

Even supposing as a exercise in thought, that it might have been true, the corruption and immorality which has pervaded the Catholic church since its inception at the time of Constantine has effectively disqualified from being able to claim that title any longer.

In Revelation, when Jesus spoke to the seven churches, He warned them to straighten out or He’d remove their candle from its lampstand. He did that for churches for far less serious reason than the corruption and immorality that the Catholic church tolerates.

It is not exempt from that kind of discipline from Jesus, if they really were a true church. But considering the path they’ve taken, they wandered off that path millennia ago.


230 posted on 01/16/2011 7:24:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

since you were raised “Catholic”, and presumably went to Mass, i have a question for you:

When you prayed “Lord, I am not worthy to receive You, but only say the Word, and i shall be healed”
Who was the “LORD” you prayed to?
Why weren’t you “worthy” to receive Him?
Did the “Lord” honor your faith and answr your prayer?
Did He heal you?

Thanks for your response.


232 posted on 01/16/2011 7:29:52 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: metmom

The Catholic Church isn’t claiming everything up until Constatine, the early Church Fathers up until Constantine identified themselves as Catholic, starting with St. Ignatius, a pupil of St. John. There was only One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church then. Denominations were invented in the 16th century. The seven “churches” in Revelation were not seven denominations!!


233 posted on 01/16/2011 7:34:38 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: metmom

INDEED TO THE MAX.


235 posted on 01/16/2011 7:49:50 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom
I was baptized and raised Catholic. The Catholic church considered me a Catholic and to hear many talk, still does. Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.

Or a failed one.

It is not exempt from that kind of discipline from Jesus, if they really were a true church. But considering the path they’ve taken, they wandered off that path millennia ago.

We are the Church of Jesus Christ; you may consider that a true church or not, given your repudiation of the Nicene Creed and your rejection of the Trinity. It is not up to you to to define God or His institutions.

371 posted on 01/17/2011 8:42:52 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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