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Robert L. Millet The Most Correct Book...(Morm/LDS Video)
Sperry Symposium ^ | 2007 | Robert L. Millet

Posted on 01/16/2011 5:57:32 AM PST by restornu

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To: Tennessee Nana
“the use of a physical cross NEVER appears” on a mormon building...

Just why is that ???

or is this also a Robert Millet moment ???

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First of all it was the Pagan Murder Constantine around 325 AD who was the first to use the physical symbol of the Cross NEVER before that time.

Secondly the reason is the LDS celebrate the living Christ that He the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ and that He lives. Jesus conquer all!

The Heavnely Father showed the Son Jesus Christ the way, and the only begotten Son Jesus Christ came to show Man the only way!

John 5

19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

41 posted on 01/16/2011 12:31:36 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
“We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions, I have not had all my questions answered, the Lord hasn’t chosen to do that, He probably hasn’t answered all of yours. Nor are we obligated to answer everyone else’s question.

I'd like to see an answer to any question. How about how many wives did Joseph Smith have?

42 posted on 01/16/2011 12:32:09 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Please do not confuse her with reality.


43 posted on 01/16/2011 12:33:55 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: restornu

more false teaching, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God, but three distinct persons, all equal. The Son is not subortinate to the Father. He did leave his glory in heaven, when He became man, but He never ceased being fully God. He did not become a “god”, read John 1.


44 posted on 01/16/2011 12:40:30 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: restornu
You keep referring to Constantine as a murder. Wiki says: the emperor who used his government to empower Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. What I find intriguing is that you do not refer to Brigham Young and Joseph Smith as murders or adulators or thieves or liars or child rapists or scam artists.....to name a few of their attributes.
45 posted on 01/16/2011 12:41:14 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: restornu

“Christ came to show man the way” WRONG!! Christ is the way! He came for one reason only, to die on the cross as an atonement for sin. It is thru faith in that Sacrifice we are reconciled to the Father.


46 posted on 01/16/2011 12:44:30 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: svcw
Yes the sorted world is always interested in...

the sorted world has a hard time staying focus precept by precept, here a little there a little (milk)!

the sorted world sences has been dulled by too much (meat) indigestion...


47 posted on 01/16/2011 12:50:34 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

why don’t you answer his question, wiki has 27, is that correct?


48 posted on 01/16/2011 12:54:31 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Christ came to show man the way” WRONG!! Christ is the way!

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Jesus Christ came to show Man the ONLY way

Stop omitting and playing with words!


49 posted on 01/16/2011 12:55:34 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

you are correct, i missed the “only”, but it doesn’t change my point. Jesus came to voluntarily give up His life as a Sacrifice for sin, this is the only reason He became man. That Sacrifice was accomplished on the cross, that is why the cross is a symbol of Christianity, without the cross, we would all still be dead in our sins!!


50 posted on 01/16/2011 1:00:51 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
1 Cor. 3
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.


This should help...

51 posted on 01/16/2011 1:05:17 PM PST by restornu (1 Cor. 3: 2 I fed you with milk, & not with meat: for now ye were not able to bear it,)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

you are correct, i missed the “only”, but it doesn’t change my point. Jesus came to voluntarily give up His life as a Sacrifice for sin, this is the only reason He became man.

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I agree with much of what you said, but there was never any phyiscal cross used during the times of the Apostles.

This came 300 years later under the reign of Constantine to get gain (empire) who use is as a political tool just like today the progressives use “Social Justice” for a political tool.
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Ponder that again

“this is the only reason He became man.”

In order to show the way Jesus had to be in the state that man was to show the way that it could be done and Jesus provided the assistance also through the sacrament also to be able to continually wash off the dirt of the world by always remember him.

1 Cor. 11
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

D&C 20: (the restored version)

75 It is expedient that the church meet together often to partake of bread and wine in the remembrance of the Lord Jesus;
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77 O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this bread to the souls of all those who partake of it, that they may eat in remembrance of the body of thy Son, and witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they are willing to take upon them the name of thy Son, and always remember him and keep his commandments which he has given them; that they may always have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.

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79 O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this wine to the souls of all those who drink of it, that they may do it in remembrance of the blood of thy Son, which was shed for them; that they may witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they do always remember him, that they may have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.


52 posted on 01/16/2011 1:25:00 PM PST by restornu (1 Cor. 3: 2 I fed you with milk, & not with meat: for now ye were not able to bear it,)
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To: restornu

Jesus did not come to set an example or show the way. He is the Lamb of God, who was Sacrificed on the cross, as an atonement for the sins of the world. Because He died, once for all, and was resurected on the 3rd day, all who are in Him, are saved and they will spend eternity in heaven with God ( singular, not gods ) This building of the Body of Christ, the Church, is the work of the Holy Spirit, and is all og grace, no one can earn their salvation. You must come to God, His way, and not listen to false teachers who claim the Church needed to be restored in the 19th century.
Jesus said many false teachers will arise and clearly Joseph Smith was one. Pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance, accept this Sacrifice for your sin, be baptized and wash away your sins and worship Jesus in His Church. It is never too late.


53 posted on 01/16/2011 1:41:24 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Religion Moderator

The last time this happened you told me not to post on the ones with “LDS CAUCUS” in the title...this one did not havfe “CAUCUS” in the title.


54 posted on 01/16/2011 2:27:23 PM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Jesus said many false teachers will arise and clearly Joseph Smith was one. Pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance, accept this Sacrifice for your sin, be baptized and wash away your sins and worship Jesus in His Church. It is never too late.

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I have prayed to the Lord Jesus Christ and it was by the power of the Holy Spirit that I knew the Book of Mormon was true.

It was the Spirit of Jesus Christ first taught me to understand many things in the Bible first which is why I broke away from mainstream religion and was independent for many years seeking those things which the Lord spoke about in the scriptures that was not being addressed or dismissed by the churches of today.

All the days of my life have been one on one with the Lord.

It was by the power of the Holy Ghost who bear witness to me that the Book of Mormon was of Jesus Christ and this is Lord’s only Church on the face of the earth today.


55 posted on 01/16/2011 3:15:52 PM PST by restornu (1 Cor. 3: 2 I fed you with milk, & not with meat: for now ye were not able to bear it,)
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To: restornu

God is not the author of confusion, the BOM contradicts the Bible in so many places that God can not be the author of both. I have chosen to believe the Bible, not because of anything i have done, faith is a gift. Pray that you be shown the truth as well. I will pray for you.


56 posted on 01/16/2011 3:47:13 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

When making a statement like that it should be backed up.


57 posted on 01/16/2011 3:52:07 PM PST by restornu (1 Cor. 3: 2 I fed you with milk, & not with meat: for now ye were not able to bear it,)
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To: restornu

“When making a statement like that it should be backed up”

It has been..many times.


58 posted on 01/16/2011 3:59:37 PM PST by PeachyKeen
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

The Bible clearly teaches there is only One God, does the BOM teach we all can become a god and that there are numerous gods already?


59 posted on 01/16/2011 4:08:28 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

woops, post #59 is in response to #57, not #56.


60 posted on 01/16/2011 4:20:16 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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