The mummified remains of St. Catherine. At Chiesa della Santa (or the Chapel of Poor Clares) in Bologna, Italy
Posted on 02/01/2011 12:52:59 PM PST by RnMomof7
A vial containing blood drawn from Pope John Paul II shortly before he died will be installed as a relic in a Polish church soon after his beatification later this year, an official said Monday. Piotr Sionko, the spokesman for the John Paul II Center, said the vial will be encased in crystal and built into the altar of a church in the southern city of Krakow that is opening in May. The exact date of the opening is not yet known, but it should be shortly after John Paul's beatification at the Vatican on May 1........... "It was the cardinal's proposal," Sionko said. "He is of the opinion that this is the most precious relic of John Paul II and should be the focal point of the church." .........
"The idea of displaying the pope's relics has met with some reservations, even inside the Catholic Church. "The tradition of relics comes from medieval practices of teaching the Bible through images and symbols," said the Rev. Krzysztof Madel, a Jesuit priest in Nowy Sacz who has publicly questioned the usefulness of displaying John Paul's blood. "But in today's rationalized world the message should rather come through teaching about someone's life." After John Paul's death, some Polish officials said they hoped John Paul's heart would be removed from his body and returned to his homeland for burial. However, church officials dismissed any possibility of dismembering the body, saying the age had passed for that practice. Dziwisz said Friday that he has always been against dividing of the body, but that "relics have always existed and will always exist."
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Again you are projecting, attempting to extrapolate a very minor instance into a major problem. One of the most sincere and faithful priests I have ever known was a nonpracticing homosexual. He is a man of great conviction and courage. He volunteered to take the place of one of the priests killed by government hit squads in El Salvador and kept alive the Word of Christ and the hope of His message. That beats the hell out of sitting in your Lazy-Boy and sniping at the possibility of errant priests. You really do disgust me.
Any man who is going to enter the priesthood with that intent is NOT going to be offering the mass correctly. How many Catholics then, have been deceived into thinking that they are receiving legitimate sacraments, when they haven't?"
Don't you believe that God can overcome a single errant priest, especially in light of Christ's promise that not even the gates of hell would prevail against it?
"So, the miracle is dependent on the believer's faith?"
No, only the ability to recognize and appreciate it.
What happened to it being dependent on the priest's actions and words? It's allegedly supposed to happen even if he's practicing heinous sin. If it's going to actually, literally happen, it's going to actually, literally happen whether the recipient believes it or not."
You have been listening to the other lunatic anti-Catholics again. Too bad you didn't pay as much attention in your own Catechism classes. In the administration of the Sacraments the priest acts in the place of Christ:
CCC987 - "In the forgiveness of sins, both priests and sacraments are instruments which our Lord Jesus Christ, the only author and liberal giver of salvation, wills to use in order to efface our sins and give us the grace of justification"
CCC1088 - "To accomplish so great a work" - the dispensation or communication of his work of salvation - "Christ is always present in his Church, especially in her liturgical celebrations. He is present in the Sacrifice of the Mass not only in the person of his minister, 'the same now offering, through the ministry of priests, who formerly offered himself on the cross,' but especially in the Eucharistic species. By his power he is present in the sacraments so that when anybody baptizes, it is really Christ himself who baptizes. He is present in his word since it is he himself who speaks when the holy Scriptures are read in the Church. Lastly, he is present when the Church prays and sings, for he has promised 'where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in the midst of them."'
CCC - 1119 Forming "as it were, one mystical person" with Christ the head, the Church acts in the sacraments as "an organically structured priestly community." Through Baptism and Confirmation the priestly people is enabled to celebrate the liturgy, while those of the faithful "who have received Holy Orders, are appointed to nourish the Church with the word and grace of God in the name of Christ."
Scripture is quite clear on the qualifications of those in leadership position and what to do with the immoral brother in your midst. Why is the Catholic church not obedient to the clear, straightforward commands of Scripture?
Which Scripture is that and how does it relate to an errant priest? Do you not believe in the forgiveness of sins?
"If you were doing the altar boy thing, how did you notice that?"
Because during the readings, the homily, and the communion service we faced the congregation and were checking out the naughty future ex-Catholic girls. We just never acted upon our urges through no fault of our own. We never took an oath of chastity or celibacy and were boys.
How does that compare with Jean Calvin's proclivity for pillow biting?
I think maybe you are having a problem understanding John 6 and just picking some verses out of context..
Trent....
Intent means what I intend to do with purpose..doing something out of habit or routine with the mind somewhere else is assembly line work. Not intentional
LOL , Actually I was..a long time ago... I had forgotten that ,so I will attribute myself ....
Roman Catholic apologists continue to spread idiotic lies in place of sound rebuttal.
Christians know they will be assaulted for their faith in Christ alone.
Your post proves that fact.
because they would rather follow tradition..what does that tell you about the church's sexual tradition?
We Catholics do get our share of grief for our unquestioned faith in Christ alone and in the Church that serves Him. For you to apologize for it means a lot.
For the record, I only respond to idiotic lies and less intentional, but equally wrong statements on Church teaching. Don't blame me if anyone gets caught up in those rules of engagement.....there are no innocent victims.
No, its a relic. There is a significant difference to Catholics and a 2,000 year tradition behind it. Think of it as something that helps focus our attention and faith on the Trinity. I don't expect you to either fully understand it or accept it, but please don't profane it or impugn it. For Catholics that is sacrilegious and disrespectful.
As usual . . .
institutionalized
Vatican Alice In Wonderland School Of Theology And Reality Mangling
cultivated, glorified, intensified, rewarded, applauded, embellished, saturated, gilded
ARROGANCE
knows no bounds.
You are incorrectly referencing my post.
Perhaps you cannot read English or maybe you do not understand the written word in general, a failing common to Roman Catholics.
Your error would be like me saying "Thank you, Natural Law, for finally admitting the RCC is an idolatrous web of lies and superstition."
Is that how you think we should be posting?
Nice personal attack!
But no where as ghoulish as witch pressings and Catholic lynchings......
I can only read what you post, I cannot read what is in your heart, but Jesus calls us to forgive and I forgive you.
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