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Pope John Paul II's blood to be relic in Polish church
AP ^ | 02/01/2011 | MONIKA SCISLOWSKA

Posted on 02/01/2011 12:52:59 PM PST by RnMomof7

A vial containing blood drawn from Pope John Paul II shortly before he died will be installed as a relic in a Polish church soon after his beatification later this year, an official said Monday. Piotr Sionko, the spokesman for the John Paul II Center, said the vial will be encased in crystal and built into the altar of a church in the southern city of Krakow that is opening in May. The exact date of the opening is not yet known, but it should be shortly after John Paul's beatification at the Vatican on May 1........... "It was the cardinal's proposal," Sionko said. "He is of the opinion that this is the most precious relic of John Paul II and should be the focal point of the church." .........

"The idea of displaying the pope's relics has met with some reservations, even inside the Catholic Church. "The tradition of relics comes from medieval practices of teaching the Bible through images and symbols," said the Rev. Krzysztof Madel, a Jesuit priest in Nowy Sacz who has publicly questioned the usefulness of displaying John Paul's blood. "But in today's rationalized world the message should rather come through teaching about someone's life." After John Paul's death, some Polish officials said they hoped John Paul's heart would be removed from his body and returned to his homeland for burial. However, church officials dismissed any possibility of dismembering the body, saying the age had passed for that practice. Dziwisz said Friday that he has always been against dividing of the body, but that "relics have always existed and will always exist."

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: 735; agendadrivenfreeper; blood; ec; popeblood; relics; romancatholic
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To: surroundedbyblue

Seems that earthly shepherds globally recognized as witnesses for Christ baffle those who don’t have them.


21 posted on 02/01/2011 1:34:18 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Alex Murphy

Your post is absolutely irrelevant. Clearly, you have nothing intellectual to offer to this discussion.


22 posted on 02/01/2011 1:35:15 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: Notwithstanding

Men may worship whatever god they choose..what ever blood they choose.. free country


23 posted on 02/01/2011 1:36:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: BigFinn

It must be difficult and baffling to see that the entire world attended Pope John Paul II’s funeral and marked his passing - the man who leads the Church that you reject.

It must be comforting to get in a few digs at him now. Sort makes up for the bewilderment and confusion you felt at the time he died and the world mourned the loss of his witness to Christ’s love and mercy.


24 posted on 02/01/2011 1:38:43 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RnMomof7
Another demonstration of the Calvinist "God'll get mad if we celebrate Christmas" psychosis.

No icons, no statues, no relics, no sacraments, no reverencing of Christ's own mother.............God's gonna be mad, mad, mad......!!

A sad, almost Islamic approach to God's church and his holy ones.

25 posted on 02/01/2011 1:38:43 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Notwithstanding

“Seems that earthly shepherds globally recognized as witnesses for Christ baffle those who don’t have them.”

I constantly marvel at these people. Their level of understanding is so superficial, so cut-and-paste to make it fit their interpretation or opinion, yet they say Catholics are the lost ones? Ha! Example is the post above that implied I’m not even a Christian.

If only these people would open their eyes. oh my.....prayers for them


26 posted on 02/01/2011 1:38:49 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: RnMomof7

Some things never change?

I would think you are actually trying to be unChristian, but I am inclined to give you a free pass if you will acknowledge that the church outlawed the any selling of relics centuries ago. It was an abuse that was dealt with appropriately.

You are not the kind of woman who drags out wrongs long past every time you have a disagreement with your husband, are you?


28 posted on 02/01/2011 1:45:33 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RnMomof7

The truth (see below) is sort of spoils your fun:

Vatican offers free relics of Pope John Paul II over the internet ...Sep 25, 2007 ... The reports forced church officials to remind the faithful that it is sacrilegious to buy or sell religious relics. ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483771/Vatican-offers-free-relics-Pope-John-Paul-II-internet.html


29 posted on 02/01/2011 1:48:54 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RnMomof7

Relic sales? Merchandising?

These outlandish accusations have zero basis. Zero. Not very Christian-like to be spreading slanderous lies, now is it?


30 posted on 02/01/2011 1:49:32 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: RnMomof7

This will also spoil your fun:

http://saintrelics.org/#

“The mission of SaintRelics.org is foremost to promote reverance and appreciation for the lives and relics of the saints.

Secondly, we aim to educate the faithful on the sin of simony, the buying and selling of relics for profit.

Thirdly, we aim to teach others how to properly identify an authentic relic and appreciate its cultural and historical context.

Lastly, we attempt to help “unwanted” relics find their way from estate sales and antique shops to a places of devotion.

We believe that relics are not to be owned or treated as a personal possession. Instead, we believe that the faithful are charged to be protective guardians of these tangibles so that they can be passed on from generation to generation, keeping the memories of the saints alive in our hearts.

We take as our patroness St. Therese of Lisieux, the Little Flower who has taught us that even the tinest of souls can be pleasing to God, for we are all invited to be a flower in His garden!”


31 posted on 02/01/2011 1:52:03 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RnMomof7
After John Paul's death, some Polish officials said they hoped John Paul's heart would be removed from his body and returned to his homeland for burial. However, church officials dismissed any possibility of dismembering the body, saying the age had passed for that practice. Dziwisz said Friday that he has always been against dividing of the body, but that "relics have always existed and will always exist."

O.....

M....

G....

And I don't say that lightly.

How can any sane, rational, mature human being take stuff like this seriously???

32 posted on 02/01/2011 1:56:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Notwithstanding

Nice try. Papa John is not the same as Christ. It is idolatry. Period.


33 posted on 02/01/2011 1:57:41 PM PST by Blogger
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To: RnMomof7

One would think the hundreds of gallons of his blood would be enough.


34 posted on 02/01/2011 1:58:17 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: marshmallow
>> A sad, almost Islamic approach to God's church and his holy ones.<<

Nice try. The Islamic approach is to punish themselves. The true followers of Christ only will wait for God to do the punishing.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:

That “nor” in there has to be troublesome for most RCC members. Not only aren’t we supposed to make images of things in heaven but then we aren’t supposed to serve them either.

35 posted on 02/01/2011 1:59:08 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: sayuncledave; RnMomof7
You DO realize that you’ve just taken an Associated Press article at face value, don’t you?

What about it is inaccurate or not true?

Since you are implying that that's the case, could you offer more than that to show us where it's wrong?

36 posted on 02/01/2011 1:59:10 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Notwithstanding; RnMomof7
You and I both know lots of folks who have a lock of hair or a tooth as a momento of their children or some other loved one.

Do they install them in alters in their homes?

Come on. That analogy falls so flat.

37 posted on 02/01/2011 2:01:06 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It is quite clear that all the purported “former” Catholics know nothing whatsoever about relics, at all.

If there were no other proof, this thread would be it.


38 posted on 02/01/2011 2:11:57 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

“He is of the opinion that this is the most precious relic of John Paul II and should be the focal point of the church.” .........

The focal point of any church should be our Salvation found in the precious blood of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. This is simply a form of idol worship, and RC’s wonder why we Protestants question the core tenets of their faith.


39 posted on 02/01/2011 2:18:15 PM PST by ConservativeNewYorker (FDNY 343 NYPD 23 PAPD 37)
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