Bye-bye, troll....
Posted on 02/11/2011 7:11:53 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
He says that the gates of Hell will not prevail against His Church and for fifteen hundred years he hid it under a bushel basket just for chits and giggles? He says the Word would be preached throughout the earth but for a minimum of fifteen hundred years He made sure no one could read the word without the wrong people translating it for them and teaching them to read? He says His Church is city on a hill but for fifteen hundred years he was teasing and kept it in tiny groups that left not a single written word and depended on the Bible as translated and compiled by the evil Catholic Church?
I understand. Like I said, I got it now. It's a matter of everyone reading and interpreting the Scripture for themselves just like you do. And like you, they can decide that for fifteen hundred years Christ chose to have his Church hidden rather than standing firm for him against little things like the Islamic invasion of the Balkans, Austria, Spain, and France. And he chose to have those parts of the Church that separated from it fall to Islam in North Africa and the Byzantine Empire. He chose to spare that portion that should have never been split off but due to human frailty as the Eastern Church but that's just coincidence. It's sad that he hid His Church rather than having it start universities and hospitals, preserve every scrap of Greek and Latin writings they could find, and extra special good that they weren't fighting heresy as it blossomed. It's good to know that each and every person who has ever called themselves Catholic is taking part in a little fairy tale fantasy of some sort.
It's just too bad everyone wasn't interpreting Scriptures for themselves because they could have avoided all the problems we're having these days with Islamic jihad. Yeah, see that proves your point again. If things had been done as you assert they should be, we'd all be Muslim and there wouldn't be any reason for these endless discussions that serve primarily to make all Christians look petty and no reason for your assertion that everyone who ever was in the Catholic hierarchy is guilty of buggery and conspiracy to perpetuate said buggery.
have just a lovely evening
Good catch, Sorry. ;-)
I think the point is they are schizophrenic. On the one hand they go out of their way to be separate from Bible believing Born Again Christians and then they claim they are a part of us and "love" us.
SNAP Press Statement
For immediate release: Friday, February 11, 2011
Summary of Philadelphia Grand Jury Report 2/11
After a detailed two year investigation, here’s what impartial grand jurors found.
The archdiocese
—“continues to engage in practices that mislead victims, that violate their trust, that hinder prosecution of their abusers and that leave large numbers of credibly accused priests in ministry”
—After more than four months, has still not fully complied with the grand jury’s subpoena
—“not much has changed” since a scathing 2005 report by another grand jury
—“has betrayed once again” the victims who report to its staffers
The archdiocesan abuse system
—“is designed to help the abusers and the archdiocese itself ”
—“is devoid of common sense”
—“reaches the wrong result in the vast majority of (child sex abuse) cases.”
The “predatory priests still in ministry” (the jury’s words)
—“dozens of apparent abusers remain on duty in the archdiocese today with access to new young prey”
—at least 37 priests with “substantial evidence of abuse” have been kept in assignments that expose them to children”
—at least “41 priests who have remained in active ministry in the past five years after the Archdiocese learned of accusations or reports of their inappropriate behavior or sexual abuse of minors.”
—only two of these 41 have been listed on the Archdiocese’s website as credibly accused, which means the identity of most of these priests remains unknown even to their parishioners.”
The so-called “victims assistance coordinators”
—“mislead victims”
—“do not keep victims’ statements confidential”
—“turn over” victims’ statements “to archdiocesan attorneys”
—“handed previously confidential” victim’s records “over to the victim’s abuser”
—“hound” victims to “give statements to “use as ammunition to impeach victims”
Msgr. William Lynn (for years, until 2004, a high ranking chancery staffer)
—“put literally thousands of children at risk of sexual abuse by placing them in the care of known child molesters” over the past two decades.”
—“was acutely interested in shielding abusive clergy from criminal detection, in shielding the Cardinal from scandal, and in shielding the Archdiocese from financial liability.”
— “showed no interest at all in defending the Archdiocese’s children. On the contrary, he consistently endangered them.”
—called his conduct in “dealing with abusive priests” to be “dangerous and indefensible”
—“knowingly exposed children to predatory priests”
— “acted as if his job was to protect the abuser, never the abused”
—his “refusal to curb” two known predators “led directly to the rape of (two boys)”
(SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy
abuse victims.)
It's not just Rome. Hope you can see that now...sometimes it is just human nature.
Nobody ever said it was just Rome.
The issue is and remains that the Roman Catholic church was just not in denial about the problem, but knew about it and either didn't do anything or went out of its way to cover it up until FORCED to deal with it as damage control after the bad publicity.
All the attempts to commend them for doing the *right* thing fail because until the light was shown on what was going on, they WEREN'T doing the right thing. They only resorted to that when they had to.
If they did the right thing in the first place, we wouldn't be having this constant barrage of stories like this.
Also, appealing to *human nature* doesn't hold water with those professing to be Christians. If one is a Christian, they have the Spirit of God living within them. It's not just the human nature any more. We are no longer slaves to that nature that we should obey it's whims and demands.
We are called to a higher standard by God, that standard is laid out for us in the Scripture that the Catholic church does everything in its power to dismiss, and any Christian has within them the power of the Holy Spirit to overcome the *human nature* and do the RIGHT thing. Not the convenient thing, or the expedient thing, or the easy thing.
The right thing.
And the right thing to do is laid out in Scripture.
If you can point to specific errors in my post please do so. Otherwise the truth of what I have stated remains.
“Behind him” as in praying for his soul as he is charged and perhaps convicted.
What a contrast between that and Rome’s outright denial of accusations, refusal to go to police authorities, and hiding priests as they shuttle them from one unsuspecting parish to another.
NOTE to archivists—the STATIONS OF THE WHITE HANKY BELOW HAVE BEEN CORRECTED & AMENDED.
Of course . . . it’s all realted to the following Stations
of the Stations Of The White Hanky:
2. BLACK/WHITE ICON OF DUPLICITY, DOUBLE STANDARD DANCE
3. THE ICON OF THE IVORY HANDLED DAGGER—HONORING THE DOCTRINE OF—WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS—KILL THE MESSENGER.
4. ICON OF THE GOLDEN GYMNAST BACK-FLIPPER—TO HONOR THE DOCTRINE OF CHRONICALLY CHANGING THE SUBJECT
5. ICON OF THE MARBLE STATUE OF PEANUTS PIGPIN THROWING DUST IN THE AIR—IN HONOR OF THE DOCTRINE OF OBFUSCATIONS TO THE SUPREME DEGREE
10. ICON OF THE 6.66” IVORY NOSE STUCK HIGH IN THE AIR—IN HONOR OF THE DOCTRINE OF HUBRIS TO THE SUPREME DEGREE
11. ICON OF THE GOLDEN GROPING HAND—GROPING FOR ANY EXPLANATION BUT THE TRUTH [No, I do NOT know which leader of athletic altar boys offered his hand as a model]
12. ICON of the teak wood flip-flops from Hawaii in honor of the doctrine of THE HOLY FLIP-FLOPS IN WORD MEANINGS AND ARGUMENTS
13. ICON of the gold Bishop’s ring with the hidden poison pill well in honor of the doctrine TO THE KILL-THE-MESSENGER-IN-WORSHIPFUL-BEHALF-OF-MARY STRATEGY
14. ICON of the gilded ivory halo in honor of THE FANTASIZED DIVINE RIGHT, TO BE CORRECT, PRISTINELY SANCTIFIED & PERFECTLY FLAWLESS IN ALL RESPECTS IN ALL CASES ALL THE TIME, REGARDLESS.
15. ICON of the marble bust of John SKerry in honor of the doctrine of CHRONIC & OBSESSIVE INCONSISTENCY.
17. ICON of the gilded ivory nose with olive branch surround in honor of the doctrine of THE UNDIVINE RIGHT OF TERMINAL SNOOTINESS TO THE MAX.
18. ICON OF THE SLIPPERY GOLDEN DANCE SHOES FOR DANCING THE RATIONALIZING-WEASEL-WORD-JITTER-BUG.
19. ICON OF THE GILDED IVORY AK47 IN BEHALF OF RC RABID CLIQUE DRIVE BY SHOOTINGS AT PRODDYS ON BLOGS FAR AND WIDE.
20. ICON OF THE GOLDEN THUMB SUCK IN HONOR OF RC’S RELIGIOUS DUTY TO BE TERMINALLY OFFENDED 24/7/365.
21. ICON of the silver figurine of the lofted tail of a skunk in honor of NAUSEATING NASTINESS in the faithful SERVICE OF the caricatured Magnificent Magical Mummy Mary.
22. ICON of the golden sharp stick—in honor of the Religious Duty Of Obligation to poke a sharp stick into the nearest Proddy’s eyes or gut and then to run wailing and whining at top frequency and top volume to the nearest authority when the Proddy dares to have a response.
HORRIFIC.
OUTRAGEOUS.
Correct on what? I don’t understand your point.
I read enough of your excellent post to know the record is
BEYOND UNMITIGATEDLY OUTRAGEOUS.
Please excuse my not reading the whole post. I just ate.
I say we start with you. Welcome Islam? You are either stupid or forgot the sarc tag.
lol. I don't have to show you anything other than what I have already shown you -- Ratzinger's own letter and Rome's own discourse on keeping pederast priests on the job and away from the prying eyes of parents and police.
I can't make you read Ratzinger's letter or Crimen Sollicitationis. I've given you both in POST 27. I've noted only some of the errors and even given you paragraphs to read.
If you prefer to shut your eyes, then so be it.
The right thing.
And the right thing to do is laid out in Scripture.
1 Corinthians 5
AMEN! For those with eyes to see.
God knew that we could never keep them . They reflect HIS character.. they were given to us so that we know what sinners we are and that we need a Savior and to lead us to Him
"The American Baptist Churches of Massachusetts...the governing body of churches...withdrew recognition of French's ordination."
This is precisely what the Roman Catholic church does NOT do. The hierarchy of the RCC hides these priests and keeps them at their jobs, in contact with vulnerable children and unsuspecting families.
Bye-bye, troll....
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