Posted on 02/27/2011 8:24:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
“Absolutely. The entire agenda has been about revolution, from the beginning. Destruction, intolerance, domination and utter control - that’s what they want, and they’ve been clear about admitting it. they want to turn the world into a disgusting fag bath house.”
No, I think that is beyond their goals...although it is very clear they are in the recruiting business. I think they are so obsessed with the deviant lifestyle, when they really want to be “normal.” So, to be “normal” they have to make the rest of us so it is so.
The homosexuals are the open enemy, there are many other groups like militant atheists that present a more direct danger to the free exercise of religion. The militant atheists want to stop out religious belief of any kind. The homosexuals just want it to bend to their inclinations.
The bigger issue in my view is that Christians need to withdraw their support for state sanctioned marriage. Licensed marriage is a really bad financial deal for most couples. And why should Christians pat to subsidize the leftists’ bastardization of the sacrament of marriage?
Let the state define “marriage” as between 3 goats and an effeminate eunuch. Who cares? Our response should be to refuse to subsidize it and have only spiritual marriages.
I cannot recant of my accusation of his capitulation on the language, which is very telling in the broadcast. He even uses the contrived, political term "homophobic" in the interview, something that anyone with any sense of the goals of the militant sodomites has. Even using this term to deny the accusation that it implies is a grave error - like answering the question: 'do you still beat your wife?'
Y&es I know, and it is pathetic!! Not to mention nauseating, flat out wrong, will be our undoing, and yes evil.
I agree pretty much, but the homosexuals and aggressive atheists/secularists are joined at the hip. One of the main tactics of the homosexual agenda pushers is to attack churches or any religions organizations and accuse them of evil “bigotry”; various Catholic adoption agencies have closed up beacuse they were targeted for not placing children with homosexuals. The homosexual agenda is part and parcel of the war against religious freedom and expression.
Dr. Mohler is not one to use ascerbic verbage in his writing or presentation. He doesn’t intentially provoke anyone. His primary purpose in this or any other issue is not political or social, per se. He opposes “sin” because God does, but to merely oppose sin is not enough. The ultimate goal is to make the “sinner” aware of his sin so he will turn to Christ in repentance and faith. That is what Dr. Mohler’s primary purpose is...to lead people to Christ. Merely suppressing the homosexualization of our society is only treating a symptom not the disease.
Critizing Dr. Mohler is not conducive to the real, God mandated, goal of spreading the Gospel.
Again, I'm not impugning Dr. Mohler's credentials, his laudable history of true Christian integrity and work, or his motives. If you will read my posts, unless I'm not expressing myself accurately, I'm saying that he is grossly underestimating the Devil's servants. They won't be coddled into believing with "niceness" and "quietness." Many times, the truth must be proclaimed loudly and without apology. The truth is respected more in this way, I believe. It's the way Jesus presented it - despite the many people he offended.
And, again, ask yourself why an interview like this broadcast of Dr. Mohler makes the homosexual lobby absolutely giddy with thoughts of their next advance and retribution.
And on this note, the Gospel begins primarily with the problem of SIN. I believe it was Keith Green who mentions this when he said, "what would they need to be saved from. Fun?"
“Dr. Mohler is also not above criticism.”
Of course he is.
“The bent toward putting leaders, particularly religious leads, on a pedestal of near “infallibility” is very disturbing.”
I never said any such thing. I’m saying you have wrongly critized him. I’m also saying that he is a more reliable source for wisdom and guidance than you. You are arrogant to put yourself above him.
“Even the apostle Peter was criticized by Paul for preaching the necessity of an Old Covenant observance, circumcision.”
Paul was also an Apostle as Peter; he made that clear in Galatians where you get this from. Are you claiming “Apostolic” authority? You need to humble yourself a whole bunch....the age of apostles ended with the death of John.
Once again, go read the 200+ articles Dr. Mohler has written and then you will potentially have the moral authority to critize him. You are being counter productive. Albert Mohler is well aware of the problem...maybe his faith in God is stronger than yours?
Of course he is.
Wow! Nothing more in common to discuss here.
“Dr. Mohler is also not above criticism.”
Of course he is.
Wow! Nothing more in common to discuss here.
Actually, that WAS really a typo on my part. I really meant to type, “Of course he isn’t”
However, I agree that we have no more reason to discuss this issue. You are attacking fellow evangelical conservatives wrongly, but your pride won’t let you back down from it. That means it is useless to attempt to dialoge with you further. I know your type all too well. Because I’m very much like you and was much worse when I was younger. I wanted more ascerbic statements from religious leaders when they chose to be more iremic. I was mostly wrong, but my zeal wouldn’t let me see that. So, I wrongly trashed persons of faith and did more harm than good. You will have to learn this on your own time and as God determines. The Good Lord still has to spank me regularly for my mouth and arrogance.
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