[Cvengr]

If we cannot do anything to save ourselves, we also cannot do anything to lose what He gives us in salvation.

[Cronos]

Actually, one does not follow from the other.

Let's see this -- we both agree that it is Christ's sacrifice on the cross that grants us salvation. That is Church teaching.

We believe this was sufficient for us salvation and nothing we can do can provide our salvation if Christ's sacrifice did not happen

Yet, we also know that:

1. Scripture tells us in Eze 33:12-16 that people can lose their salvation
2. Scripture tells us that we must work out our own salvation
3. Christ Himself told us "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me" (Mt 16:24)

Keeping this in mind, we see that we must do the minimum of accepting Christ's freely given salvation. If we do not accept this, we do not get saved.

And yet, vines can be pruned and cast away, so we can lose our God-given salvation

And yet pruned vines can also be grafted back in, because we have a forgiving, loving God.