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The Christ of Mormonism (Real Mormonism)
Mormon Coffee (Mormonism Research Ministry) ^ | March 14, 2011 | Aaron Shafovaloff

Posted on 03/25/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: blasater1960
Have you not heard of the royal "we"?

How lame!

Haven't you heard of the GODly 'us'?

321 posted on 03/27/2011 5:37:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blasater1960
Otherwise, using YOUR logic, the us could be 4, 5, 5,000...why stop at 3?

You right!

It COULD be!!

But what IS it?

322 posted on 03/27/2011 5:38:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
Ah... The wunnerful recurring links. WHY so may of them NOT official LDS, Inc. sources?

Why all the disclaimers found in them?

Why would ANYONE; after looking thru your List-o-Links® decide to REMAIN a MORMON; let alone BECOME one?

323 posted on 03/27/2011 5:40:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
LDS, Inc. Yes, lurkers. It IS a CORPORATION!
324 posted on 03/27/2011 5:41:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blasater1960

For which of these do you stone me?

SPIT!

...because you claim to be GOD.


325 posted on 03/27/2011 5:42:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ejonesie22
Well then since Christ was not a Prophet but the Messiah, though he did fulfill prophecy, we are in good shape then.

Well; since Smith was a False Prophet (even though some rank him up along the Messiah) and since he DID make some un-fulfilled prophecies, MORMONs who do NOT know "The REST of the Story" are in really precarious shape then!

326 posted on 03/27/2011 5:46:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

‘xactly..


327 posted on 03/27/2011 6:20:25 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Paragon Defender

Do you even read what people post to you?
I have had experience with lds since 1962. I have information from my lds family which includes a bishop (interesting they have no problem answering questions about the oddity of lds beliefs).
I have told you I have read your links.
What part of all this do you not get?
God has told me to flee, lds is not His church.


328 posted on 03/27/2011 6:23:12 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender; All
Do you have a personal view on lds? Are you able to articulate any belief that you have? When you just call people liars/distorters but never post your own views it does make readers wonder if you actually know lds at all.
329 posted on 03/27/2011 6:28:36 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Elsie
It is humorous that when you look at some of these newly added sites that they are oh so familiar to what is being posted here IE cut and paste.
Very humorous is that these new sites give links to other sites to get additional information.
So these new sites talk about hate against mormons not mormonISM, give links to new sites, and still don't answer questions...........almost as though a single person has bought up the domain names and started their own repetitive blogs under different titles.
Just saying. (Ok, the are some answers, like, "we too are christians", "christians have been wrong for two thousand years", "we can to baptize for the dead JS said so".......every body hates us I think I'll eat some worms)
330 posted on 03/27/2011 6:40:44 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: svcw

What part of all this do you not get?


Oh I get it just fine. It’s you that does not. God wants you to listen to what he wants, not what you want.

Have a great Sunday!


331 posted on 03/27/2011 6:47:55 AM PDT by Paragon Defender (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil....)
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To: Paragon Defender
God wants you to listen to what he wants, not what you want.

He did, we all did, that is why we are not LDS.

God plays no games and has no peers.

332 posted on 03/27/2011 6:58:59 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Paragon Defender

Apparently not because God has said plainly and clearly that lds is not His church.
Even in 1962 when I was a kid, I could hear God’s voice clearly.
I lived with my lds uncle and aunt for a time, I went to lds services (where by the way never heard the name of Jesus spoken in the sermons/talks).
As I grew, I tried desperately to please my uncle now the bishop, still I heard God say flee, this lds is not My church.
I saw the destruction of the ridged rules and what it was doing to families who might have made a mistake - denial of the recommendations, ridicule for not tithing enough.
My tipping point to lead me to pure loathing of mormonISM was when my cousin’s husband was disapproving of something she did and dragged her into see some bishop or regional person (my cousin and husband were both employees of SLC temple workings) and her husband and this other guy berated her and called her “unworthy, unworthy”. She was ridiculed by them as unworthy and everyone they worked with and went to ward with knew it. Her friends stopped seeing her, she was shunned at ward.
One month later she took her own life.
So do not ever tell me “I don’t get it” I do.
What was her crime of unworthiness, she tried to restore her relationship with her father (my uncle) after a falling out that was encouraged by the then bishop of her ward.
For trying to restore the relation ship with her father, mormonISM killed her.


333 posted on 03/27/2011 7:15:15 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Paragon Defender

I get it.
When my aunt lay in the hospital for nearly five months, not one time did anyone from their ward offer to care for the four young kids (my cousins), only one time did anyone bring food - a pizza for Thanksgiving. There were no offers from lds (the ward, the region or anywhere) to help them with medical costs.
They lost everything paying for medical bills, their home, their investments, their retirement, everything - not one word or offer of help.
You may wonder why didn’t I help as my cousins are so much younger than myself. I would have if I had known. You see once I told my aunt and uncle that I could not participate in lds, they turned their backs on me. I did not hear from them for about five years, when my uncle wrote me a letter telling me my grandmother had died.
I have seen my aunt only once in twenty years. I sent a note to them asking if she wanted to see my first granddaughter. She came over for about twenty minutes and then left.
I see my uncle now about every two years.
I have a cousin who when she was about twenty felt she was a homosexual. Very active in lds. One Sunday she was rebuked from the front during a talk/sermon and asked to leave the ward.
So PD don’t tell me I don’t get it.
I understand lds, I know lds and I also know that what you see lds doing all happy and helpful on the outside is a lie compared to who they really are.
In the words of my cousin, he says “they are perfect on the outside and vile rotten to the core on the inside. All they care about is their image and money”.


334 posted on 03/27/2011 7:59:05 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Elsie
It COULD be!! But what IS it?

1....just as G-d plainly says

You and colofornian would make good mormons. You defend your heresies with rambling thought not rooted in the scripture.

335 posted on 03/27/2011 8:09:46 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960

Your comments have all been on point and appreciated...magritte


336 posted on 03/27/2011 8:17:25 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: blasater1960; Elsie
What heresy does E profess?
One God, that's not a heresy.
337 posted on 03/27/2011 8:19:16 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: magritte

Thanks magitte...


338 posted on 03/27/2011 8:19:30 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: ejonesie22; Paragon Defender

Typical mormon - desires mormonism to be true more than desiring the truth.


339 posted on 03/27/2011 8:33:32 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: svcw; Elsie
What heresy does E profess? One God, that's not a heresy.

The same heresy of the mormon. You both put Jesus (a man) into the godhead. That is heretical.

Making a man-god hybrid your lord and savior. G-d says:

Isaiah 43:10-11 “You are My witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me no god was formed, nor will there be one after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”

NO OTHER SAVIOR

Isaiah 40:25 “To whom then will you liken Me, that I should be his equal?” says the Holy One.

You are making a man-god hybrid G-ds equal...heretical!

Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord, that is My name, and My glory will I not give to another..

You give glory to a man-god hybrid.....heretical!

Isaiah 44:8 Is there any God besides Me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”

You claim jesus is the rock....heretical! If jesus was a Rock like G-d...G-d would have told us, He would said... I have another with me, he is my son, i am he and he is me..G-d NEVER SAYS THIS or anything remotely like it.

Isaiah 46:5 To whom shall you liken Me and make Me equal and compare Me that we may be alike?

G-d says no one!...You say Jesus!

Hosea 13:4 I am the Lord your God, Who brought you out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no god but Me, no savior except Me!

No G-d but Me...no Savior except Me....You guys insist on defying G-d and shoe-horning a man-god as savior! Heretical!

Isaiah 44:24 Thus said the Lord, your Redeemer, the One who formed you from the womb, “I am the Lord Who makes everything, Who stretched forth the heavens alone, Who spread out the earth by Myself.

"I" strecthed forth the heavens...ALONE...MYSELF! You insist on making a man-god hybrid creator! Heretical!

G-d NEVER once says.....I am G-d....I am three-in-one....I have a son and he is me and I am him. I also have a holy spirit that is me and I am him...etc. By you ignoring and willingly putting a god-man hybrid as god, you are being heretics!

340 posted on 03/27/2011 9:01:53 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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