The Christ of Mormonism (Real Mormonism)

Mormon Coffee (Mormonism Research Ministry) ^ | March 14, 2011 | Aaron Shafovaloff

[Godzilla]

It sucks when you laugh so hard you get popcorn stuck in you nose.

[svcw]

Yep

[ejonesie22]

Ya can’t fool a kid.

Sadly some adults, not so much.

[ejonesie22]

Got anything in a Capt. America trailer or rumors on the next Trek. You seem to be expert on Sci Fi shorts and such.

[blasater1960]

From the LDS website:

The Church's first article of faith states, "We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost." These three beings make up the Godhead. They preside over this world and all other creations of our Father in Heaven.

I realize Jesus in the LDS is a progressed being but none the less, he is in the godhead. I realize the christian godhead is constructed differently. The point is, both LDS and Christianity have Jesus in the godhead and by definition humanity in the godhead. Jesus is a hypostatic union that is 100%god and 100%man. Jesus' humanity, according to Christianity, did not cease to exist. There for both Mormonism and Christianity have a human being in the godhead. That of course from the Jewish perspective is heresy.

[svcw]

Ok, what ever you want to think.
The lds jesus is created.
The Christian Jesus is Eternal.
The lds god is a progressed dude.
The Christian God is Eternal.
If you want to rage that lds is no different than Christianity, you will be called out. They are not.
For some reason known only to you, you work very hard to deny Christ, you do so at your own peril.
Remember always that the Biblical Jesus is sufficient, the lds jesus is a created guy, who sufficient for nothing.

[Elsie]

You seem to be expert on Sci Fi shorts and such.

Speaking of shorts...

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Temple Recommend Questions

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1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

       Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
       Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Temple Recommend Questions

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1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

       Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
       Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

 

 

 

[ejonesie22]

Well those are indeed “Sci Fi Shorts”...

[blasater1960]

If you want to rage that lds is no different than Christianity, you will be called out.

I am not raging...I dont know why you think that. I am also not saying they are the same, they clearly are not.

Christians on a daily basis rail on mormons on FR. Okay, fine. I think it is only reasonable to challenge you (And in turn get challegened back), to think of implications of your own faith, compared to the Original faith....Jewish (And Noahide) doctrine. I bet very few freepers have a clue, why Jews dont believe in Jesus, from the Jewish perspective. So, I like to engage my FReeper Christian friends, to hopefully shed a little light (from my point of view) on what are serious flaws....just like they shed light on mormonism every single day on FR.

I see no harm in having people think about what they believe and why. Is is a polemical discussion.

[Elsie]

Christians on a daily basis rail on mormons on FR.

Ha ha! Big flippin' deal!!

There are about 50,000 of US pounding on DOORS every day!

[blasater1960]

Christians on a daily basis rail on mormons on FR. Ha ha! Big flippin' deal!!

I said..."Okay Fine"....I think mormons should be challenged, they are totally deceitful...in spite of having "nice families". And that is what polemic discussion is all about. Some people get tweaked when I challege them, like they do the mormons. (Both you a Colofornia have always been good sports although we disagree totally!)

[Elsie]

(Both you a Colofornia have always been good sports although we disagree totally!)

I look back on the path that MY life has followed, and realize that it takes a lot of small things, adding together, to finally affect a change in attitude.

At least it does for me.

[svcw]

I would say you don’t ask why I believe what I believe you state before asking that what I believe is wrong.

[Elsie]

Ok; WHY do you believe something that is OBVIOUSLY wrong? ;^)