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Questions About Father Corapi's Military Records Raised, Again
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 3/28/11 | Tancred

Posted on 03/30/2011 9:22:12 AM PDT by 0beron

Heads up... the first time it got out there was a few years ago, and someone took some time debunking it back in two thousand eight.

(Excerpt) Read more at eponymousflower.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: corapi; disinformation; euteneuer; lies; media; smear
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To: Larry Lucido
No, not ENTIRELY consistent, for it lacks the additional training beyond Basic and AIT. Corapi's story (in his own words) regarding training to be "a very specialized" type of soldier, is more like a stretch of what is in the record.

Here we go, from today's Army;

Notice it says, "After graduating AIT". Not "included, extending training consecutive with and still referred to as AIT"... There is a break there. A distiction made between AIT, which follows Basic for all Infrantrymen, then this other, more specialized training.

21 posted on 03/31/2011 1:56:14 PM PDT by BlueDragon (in the race between hyper calvinism & uber catholicism, they both come in last)
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To: BlueDragon

Do you know how to read a 2404?


22 posted on 04/01/2011 7:25:16 AM PDT by 0beron
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To: BlueDragon

I’ve reported what I know, nothing more nothing less. After becoming an Infantry, Father Corapi went to Fort Knox which is mostly Armor, as an Infantryman. There’s no report of what he did there, no report of why he went there, nothing, but it’s different and weird.

I know how to read a personnel file and know these posts. There’s nothing that I’ve found on line showing any training going on at Fort Knox except for Cavalry Scouts and Tankers.


23 posted on 04/01/2011 7:30:41 AM PDT by 0beron
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To: 0beron
What can be known is that Army Basic training, during the Vietnam era, was 8 weeks (2 months). It appears Basic training has been shortened since then.

How long would, or could AIT have taken, back in 1967? So 2 months Basic, followed by what? Two, three, or was it four months of AIT?

Though AIT could have it's own "specialized" components, OTHER, further, more specialized training after that, would need to be completed before a guy could rightly enough wear a SF emblem, making claim to having completed "Green Beret" training???

There does not appear to be enough time available for that.

He might have went through training for being some sort of Army recon guy but that does not justify running around telling folks that he "trained for Special Forces", and completed it, which he long has, referencing the same on numerous occasions.

It looks like a case of embellishment. Or at least a case, which after examination, leaves not unreasonable doubt.

Corapi has yet (unless I've missed something) taken the trouble to straighten it out, either.

I'm almost willing to bet we'll see Obama's long from birth certificate before we'll get a peek at a DD214. Or short of the DD214, enough verifiable information that could remove doubt.

24 posted on 04/01/2011 6:01:21 PM PDT by BlueDragon (in the race between hyper calvinism & uber catholicism, they both come in last)
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To: DesertRhino; RnMomof7
,it sure seems to me that Corapi is always firmly on the side of the angels,

This is Corapi....


25 posted on 04/02/2011 8:48:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

So what? You’re a simple minded, anti-Catholic bigot? No mystery there.


26 posted on 04/03/2011 12:42:41 AM PDT by 0beron
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To: BlueDragon

I have no idea. He went to Fort Knox as an infantryman for unspecified training. Fort Knox is an Armour and Cav Scout post. I haven’t the foggiest notion what he would be doing there and I was unable to find a comprehensive list on google of what kind of training was going on there in the time concerned.

Ok?


27 posted on 04/03/2011 12:46:49 AM PDT by 0beron
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To: 0beron
Still holding onto some remote chance of validity of the Special Forces story, huh? Even when it's fairly plain there was not enough time?
28 posted on 04/03/2011 11:04:25 AM PDT by BlueDragon (tonto he got smart said listenkimmosabe, kissmyass I boughtaboat, I'm headedout to sea)
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To: 0beron
Woops, I missed something. Or at least failed to quote you. You said he went there for "unspecified" training.

Actually, there was some specification, albeit imprecise. That specification was AIT, which as can be found through only a bit of searching, is prerequisite for the further training required to justify the claim in dispute.

Forgive me for repeating myself here, but it is only in response to your own repeating of vague assertions, which have been addressed, both in the previous posts to you on this subject, and again, more briefly in the paragraph above.

That info points toward both impossibility of the claim, and the futility of speculation towards it's support.

29 posted on 04/03/2011 11:39:37 AM PDT by BlueDragon (tonto he got smart said listenkimmosabe, kissmyass I boughtaboat, I'm headedout to sea)
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To: BlueDragon

Three months is a little long for Infantry AIT, don’t you think?


30 posted on 04/07/2011 8:18:10 AM PDT by 0beron
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To: 0beron

Not really. Basic was two months back in those days. Ask the Army vets of that day how long it was before they shipped off to Vietnam or Germany.

3 months wasn't long enough then, to become a "Green Beret", but it would probably be long enough to become a clerk/typist, particularly if one had to be recuperate from an alleged injury, be re-assigned and re-trained.

Otherwise, 2 months certainly isn't too long to be in AIT. One month extra to lay claim to have completed "Green Beret" training is a LITTLE SHORT DON'T YOU THINK???

If that's not the case, then why not have many more of these, back in the Vietnam era?

By your own insistence, you are becoming like the monkey trapped with the nut-in-a-bottle trick. You can let go and escape. Corapi can't. He's BUSTED!

31 posted on 04/07/2011 9:58:41 AM PDT by BlueDragon (tonto he got smart said listenkimmosabe, kissmyass I boughtaboat, I'm headedout to sea)
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To: BlueDragon

Basic is two months now. It was eight weeks during WWII and it was two Months during Vietnam.

It takes roughly seven weeks to get through Infantry AIT both then and now, not three months which is what Father Corapi was doing, until he was assigned to Fort Knox.

Have you ever been in the military?


32 posted on 04/07/2011 3:12:06 PM PDT by 0beron
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To: 0beron
Listen, we've gone over this several times. But I notice you never address the points raised. Just keep blowing smoke.

He took AIT at Ft. Knox.

So answer the question. Do you REALLY think there was enough time, after completing Basic and AIT, that he could have actually completed additional Special Forces training? Is that all it takes? A month. 5 weeks? Fat chance, not in that war. No way. No Wings, no Special Forces. Get that through your head.

I volunteered for the Never Again Volunteer Yourself Dept., a couple of years after the last guys came home. It was a dumb move on my part.

But you didn't serve, did you? I thought not...

33 posted on 04/07/2011 10:33:53 PM PDT by BlueDragon (tonto he got smart said listenkimmosabe, kissmyass I boughtaboat, I'm headedout to sea)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
That is indeed a disconcerting series of photos, but I think even more disconcerting is what Fr. Corapi is doing presently, forget his military career, what he is doing now is leading many astray from the church... first and foremost he is a priest and he is to obey church authority and work within the church to prove his innocence (which BTW I am inclined to believe he is) not throw a temper tantrum and go his own way because things don't go quite the way he wants them to... someone much more qualified to talk about this has done so... Fr. Joe on his blog...

Black Sheep Dog or BLACK WOLF?

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FATHER JOE: (June 2011) I have not blogged about this matter until now and I am not comfortable about posting on it. This issue has gone beyond Father Corapi and could harm the very souls for whom he has confessed concern. Already on the social network sites, his fans are taking sides with him and attacking the Church. This has quickly become a very dangerous situation, another reason why cult worship of religious media personalities should be discouraged. Our faith is in Jesus and the Church, not in preachers with impressive rhetoric and militant attitudes.
34 posted on 07/02/2011 6:43:51 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: battousai

We shouldn’t be surprised when wolves in sheep’s clothing actually look like sheep.

But they’re not.


35 posted on 07/03/2011 5:55:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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