Joseph Smith's successful and unsuccessful proposals to church leaders' wives (Mormon)

So, Joseph Smith was a Democrat then?

21 posted on 03/31/2011 4:51:06 PM PDT by Twinkie (WHERE'S ALL OF OBAMA'S RECORDS?)

They tarred and feathered Joseph Smith?? For all the evil stuff he did to get his false religion going, he got what he deserved!

They pickled Rasputin's "member". I'm surprised Joseph Smith's admirers didn't do the same. I'm sure Joseph Smith's little buddy did all the thinking.

22 posted on 03/31/2011 4:52:59 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)

Nice. Love his work.

23 posted on 03/31/2011 5:03:56 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)

Any politician who believes this crap should never be voted for.  Problem is half our voters don't have a half a brain.

24 posted on 03/31/2011 5:18:45 PM PDT by fulltlt

Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Some of them claim being some sort of special witness to you as being supposedly former Mormons. So someone who is an ex-member of any organization would never have an axe to grind or have reason to try to justify their actions by any means? Perhaps not but perhaps so. The LDS Church gains members from other denominations as well as others faiths all the time. This doesn't make them an expert on anything and you certainly won't hear them attacking their former Church.

Frequently they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, quote and straw man attack that. Almost without fail you will see examples of this following this post.

Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think. So again, seek the truth. They aren't providing it. Use your God-given brain and discernment.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address or answer our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you? They often state that these sites provide no answer. They just don't want you looking. It is as simple as that.

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

25 posted on 03/31/2011 5:23:49 PM PDT by Paragon Defender (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil....)

To: Paragon Defender

So what is incorrect about the posted article?
Your links will not provide the answers to my question.
What is incorrect, misrepresented, twisted, clouded or all the other words you use rather than answer questions.

26 posted on 03/31/2011 5:31:41 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)

To: Paragon Defender

I find it ironic that you use a Bible verse, “Woe to them who call evil good and good, evil.” Because that is EXACTLY what you are doing! You are like Paul before his conversion to the Lord Jesus. He thought he was doing God’s work and then when Jesus confronted him on the road to Damascus, he realized he had been working against God!
I pray that Jesus will open your spiritual eyes before it is too late!

27 posted on 03/31/2011 5:34:24 PM PDT by Buddygirl

28 posted on 03/31/2011 5:35:01 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)

Sorry but you have it backwards and are a good example of what happens when you listen to the wrong people. You are being blinded by those who are calling good evil and evil good. I hope you figure it out soon.

29 posted on 03/31/2011 5:39:06 PM PDT by Paragon Defender (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil....)

So who gets to apply the same kind of test to Joseph Smith, to ask him for all his worldy wealth, and to ask him for all his wives? Would he have been so gracious as to turn over everything he had?

I would think that as a ‘prophet’ Joseph would have even been held to a higher standard and probably should have just volunteered all his wealth and wives away. Before even anyone would have to ask him. you know, just to see ‘where he stood with God.’

30 posted on 03/31/2011 5:53:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)

To: dragonblustar

Or the other old joke....”...and if I was married to you, madam, I would drink the poison!”

31 posted on 03/31/2011 5:55:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)

To: Paragon Defender

More and more folks coming out to call you on your little game.

Keep up the good work.

32 posted on 03/31/2011 6:03:23 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)

The testimony of Emily and Eliza Partridge, two sisters who were coerced into marriages with Joseph Smith, is one of the most revolting stories that I've ever read.

Both married him without knowing the other sister had. Their marriages to him were four days apart. He married them secretly from everyone including his first wife Emma. They were the 20th and 21st out of 34 wives. Smith left them with hand shake to signify the end of their marriages.

33 posted on 03/31/2011 6:13:57 PM PDT by delacoert

34 posted on 03/31/2011 11:33:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: aMorePerfectUnion

Horndog Prophet Joe Smith Placemarker

35 posted on 03/31/2011 11:34:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: dragonblustar

36 posted on 03/31/2011 11:35:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: dragonblustar

Jim Jones wasn't tar and feathered....?

Didn't Jesus say, in the Book of MORMON; "Many are tarred, but few are feathered."?

37 posted on 03/31/2011 11:37:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: dragonblustar

I'm sure Joseph Smith's little buddy did all the thinking.

JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But....

38 posted on 03/31/2011 11:39:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: Secret Agent Man

40 posted on 03/31/2011 11:41:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

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