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1 posted on 04/02/2011 1:57:46 PM PDT by NYer
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The Crusades ended too soon. Must have been a
‘Rat in the White House.......


39 posted on 04/02/2011 5:25:56 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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“far from being unprovoked, then, the crusades actually represent the first great western Christian counterattack against Muslim attacks which had taken place continually from the inception of Islam until the eleventh century, and which continued on thereafter, mostly unabated.”

Even my second grader knew that. But then, he had been home schooled, unlike the First Black President, Clinton.


41 posted on 04/02/2011 5:37:10 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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Bump


43 posted on 04/02/2011 5:49:44 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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This is a keeper!

I like good historical dramas but I will not see THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, even on dvd.

I would rather watch Cecil B DeMille’s version.


44 posted on 04/02/2011 5:54:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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ping Crusades


48 posted on 04/02/2011 6:34:39 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM FREE AMERICA.)
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additional from the FRchives:

Islam: Real History of the Crusades
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/661560/posts

Islam: Real History of the Crusades (2nd thread, msg 24)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/691603/posts?page=24#24

Islam: Politically incorrect facts about The Crusades
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1210827/posts


50 posted on 04/02/2011 7:47:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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the crusaders should have used bigger bombs and more of them.....just as we should now be doing in Afghanistan..in fact, in my opinion, we should use a few REAL big ones..it drives me nuts when I read that a tribe comes out of the mountains and slaughters U.S. or U.N. troops and then retreats to hide in their mountains.......Level the mountains and there will be no tribe and no mountains . you would be able to drive in with your Chevy volt (if they had a place to plug it in)!!


51 posted on 04/02/2011 8:42:31 PM PDT by terycarl
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Nice post!


57 posted on 04/02/2011 10:02:48 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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And given space, one could append a long and bloody list, stretching back to the seventh century, of similar actions where Muslims were the aggressors and Christians the victims

I wish the author had given such a list.

64 posted on 04/03/2011 1:26:01 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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Most of this I was already aware of, but it is nice to have it all in one place and in such a succinct and useful format.


66 posted on 04/04/2011 2:29:29 PM PDT by tarawa
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great article
In 1009, a mentally deranged Muslim ruler destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem and mounted major persecutions of Christians and Jews.

He was soon deposed, and by 1038 the Byzantines had negotiated the right to try to rebuild the structure, but other events were also making life difficult for Christians in the area, especially the displacement of Arab Muslim rulers by Seljuk Turks, who from 1055 on began to take control in the Middle East.

This destabilized the territory and introduced new rulers (the Turks) who were not familiar even with the patchwork modus vivendi that had existed between most Arab Muslim rulers and their Christian subjects.

Pilgrimages became increasingly difficult and dangerous, and western pilgrims began banding together and carrying weapons to protect themselves as they tried to make their way to Christianity’s holiest sites in Palestine: notable armed pilgrimages occurred in 1064–65 and 1087–91.

from the article
68 posted on 04/05/2011 5:05:29 AM PDT by Cronos (Wszystkiego najlepszego!)
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and this
In 1071, the Byzantines suffered a devastating defeat at Turkish hands in the battle of Manzikert. As a result of the battle, the Christians lost control of almost all of Asia Minor, with its agricultural resources and military recruiting grounds, and a Muslim sultan set up a capital in Nicaea, site of the creation of the Nicene Creed in a.d. 325 and a scant 125 miles from Constantinople

69 posted on 04/05/2011 5:06:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Wszystkiego najlepszego!)
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bttt


71 posted on 01/04/2014 8:50:27 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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