The Biblical Jesus vs. the Book of Mormon Jesus

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[greyfoxx39]

The Biblical Jesus vs. the Book of Mormon Jesus

(From a post on exmormon.org)

Special thanks to who ever posted this originally (sorry I forgot your name) and aknowledgement to Gordon Hinckley who said "we worship a different Christ".


LDS members believe that they are singularly blessed with a record of the earthly ministry of Jesus from his life in Palestine, his visit to the Spirit World, and his visit to the Americas. Yet, a chronological reading of the story of Jesus’ last week in Palestine to his ministry in the America, using LDS scripture, leaves one puzzled as to the very nature and character of Jesus.

I. Palestine

During the last days of Jesus’ life in Palestine, he entered triumphantly into Jerusalem, healed the sick, instituted the Holy Supper with the apostles, suffered greatly in Gethsemane, was judged and mocked, and then was crucified among common thieves.

In Palestine, Jesus is recorded as being meek and forgiving.

In Luke 22:32, Jesus tells Simon Peter that he is praying for Peter to be strengthened knowing that Peter will betray him three times before sunrise.

Also in Luke chapter 22, Jesus is told of going to Gethsemane and gently rebuking the disciples for following asleep during his personal agony and ordeal.

When Jesus leaves Gethsemane, one of the disciples uses a sword and cuts off the ear of the servant of the high priest. “And Jesus answered and said, ‘Suffer ye thus far.’ And he touched his ear, and healed him.” (Luke 22:51)

Jesus is ridiculed and spat upon. During the night, Peter, as forecasted, betrays Jesus three times. In response Jesus turns his head and looks at Peter, causing Peter to weep bitterly.

Herod, having heard of Jesus’ miracles, mocks him by allowing his men to dress Jesus in a robe before returning the prisoner to Pilate.

Pilate finding no wrong in Jesus, appealed to the crowd gathered who called for his crucifixion. During these acts of vulgarity and ridicule, Jesus is recorded as being passive and submissive.

On the cross at Golgotha, Jesus was placed between two thieves. During the dying process, Jesus is recorded as saying: “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.”

Upon hearing Jesus plead for forgiveness, the rulers around him scorned him: “He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.”

The rulers’ outburst caused the soldiers to add a final insult by placing a wooden placard on the cross above Jesus reading “THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”

Even the two thieves asked Jesus why he didn’t use his supernatural powers to free himself. As a response, Jesus rebuked one’s disbelief, but then informed that they would be with him in paradise.

The New Testament stories demonstrate a person of quiet dignity, meekness and forgiveness.

II. The Spirit World

According to LDS scripture, immediately upon Jesus’ death, his spirit left his body and ascended to the Spirit World. Jesus begins to metamorphose.

While in Palestine, Jesus preached among the sinners and outcasts.

Yet Mormon prophet Joseph F. Smith saw Jesus’ recently departed spirit go “not in person among the wicked and the disobedient” but to the righteous, such as Adam, Eve, many of Eve’s faithful daughters (apparently names weren’t provided), Abel, Seth, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Elias, Malachi, and many more, even the prophets who dwelt among the Nephites. (D&C 138:29, 38-49).

After a visit back to Jerusalem, Jesus became resurrected meaning that his spirit reentered his body. He spent some time teaching his disciples.

III. The Americas

Meanwhile, in the Americas, a different stage has been set. Immediately upon the crucifixion of Jesus, tempests, earthquakes, fires, whirlwinds, and physical upheavals rage for three hours.

The Book of Mormon tells: The city of Zarahemla was set on fire; the city of Moroni sunk into the depths of the sea, and the inhabitants were drowned; the earth was carried up upon the city of Moronihah; and many great and notable cities were sunk, and many were burned, and many were shaken till the buildings thereof had fallen to the earth, and the inhabitants thereof were slain, and the places were left desolate; And there were some cities which remained; but the damage thereof was exceedingly great, and there were many in them who were slain.

The destruction was followed by darkness upon the face of the land and there was great mourning and howling and weeping among all the people.

(3 Nephi 8).

Who caused this massive destruction and death? The survivors would immediately know the culprit in the form a Voice.

The Voice chides America’ inhabitants proclaiming:

“Behold, that great city Zarahemla have I burned with fire, and the inhabitants thereof. And behold, that great city Moroni have I caused to be sunk in the depths of the sea, and the inhabitants thereof to be drowned. And behold, that great city Moronihah have I covered with earth, and the inhabitants thereof, “

“And behold, the city of Gilgal have I caused to be sunk, and the inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth:

And building momentum, the Voice continues:

“Yea, and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Mocum and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Jerusalem [the America city, not the one in Palestine, he left that one alone] and the inhabitants thereof.”

“And behold, the city of Gadiandi, and the city of Gadiomnah, and the city of Jacob, and the city of Gimgimno, all these have I caused to be sunk, and made hills and valleys in the places thereof; and the inhabitants thereof have I buried up in the depths of the earth.”

“And behold, that great city Jacobugath, which was inhabited by the people of king Jacob, have I caused to be burned with fire.”

“And behold, the city of Laman, and the city of Josh, and the city of Gad, and the city of Kishkumen, have I caused to be burned with fire”

(3 Nephi 9: 2-10)

After itemizing his destructions, the Voice tells the people the name of their Destroyer:

“Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God.”

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Yes, that Jesus who only a short time earlier restored a severed ear, forgave the ignorant, the crucifers, and the non-believers - all of whom had witnessed or knew of his miracles while Jesus preached among them for some three years.

Jesus, the man who had spared those in Palestine who had personally rejected him, mocked him and crucified him, tells those in America:

(3 Nephi 19:35)

“‘So great faith have I never seen among all the Jews; wherefore I could not show unto them so great miracles, because of their unbelief.’”

[greyfoxx39]

References are included in the article.

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Thanks for posting.

[dragonblustar]

Thanks for posting. I hope Mormons read the bible and get to know the real Jesus before its too late.

[greyfoxx39]

Ping

[Godzilla]

[ejonesie22]

You need to look here. You are being misled as is obvious by your worn out propaganda.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up in the anti-Mormon propaganda can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

-In Memorium, Paragon Defender, felled by JimRob Zot, April 3, 2011.

This worthless post is for you old friend. You were the best “Anti Mormon” on FR.

[ejonesie22]

You need to look here. You are being misled as is obvious by your worn out propaganda.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up in the anti-Mormon propaganda can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

-In Memorium, Paragon Defender, felled by JimRob Zot, April 3, 2011.

This worthless post is for you old friend. You were the best “Anti Mormon” on FR.

[maine-iac7]

I guess I'm not understanding your point?

How many times in the Bible did God destroy the wicked? Just take the flood & Sodom & Gomorrah. for two.

[Tennessee Nana]

PD
RIP

[ejonesie22]

You need to look here. You are being misled as is obvious by your worn out propaganda.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up in the anti-Mormon propaganda can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

-In Memorium, Paragon Defender, felled by JimRob Zot, April 3, 2011.

This worthless post is for you old friend. You were the best “Anti Mormon” on FR.

[ejonesie22]

Wow a triple from just one post...

The Spirit moves in mysterious ways...

[maine-iac7]

Actually, I lied in my Post #8 - I DO understand your point - you use any line of obfuscation you can come up with to do your Mormon bashing,

The one you are positing here is as empty as your head seems to be

[PeachyKeen]

Thank you...and I was on the thread when it happened. I really feel for PD but I do not pray for him anymore...he doesn’t need my prayers, but like I said in a post a couple of days ago, I believe he NEEDS and WANTS attention. He got plenty on these threads..

[ejonesie22]

The one you are positing here is as empty as your head seems to be

Nice...

Of course you also have a point, right?

The article itself is clear to anyone...

[GraceG]

This video explains everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1QQpvzqTMnU

[Alex Murphy]

-In Memorium, Paragon Defender, felled by JimRob Zot, April 3, 2011.

I'm sure Paragon Defender was completely blameless for the zot. /sarc>

bahaha and the show goes on. Watching the stage where the anti’s put on their propaganda show is still especially entertaining when you understand what is really going on. It’s similar to watching Nazi Germany skits portraying the Jews as something they certainly were not.
-- Paragon Defender, April 3, 2011.

[oremites]

Who caused this massive destruction and death? The survivors would immediately know the culprit in the form a Voice.

Sounds a lot like what will happen in the last days. Calamities followed by the coming of Christ who will reveal himself to the survivors. See Revelation 16 for some interesting details about God-directed suffering and destruction.

[JAKraig]

I still don't understand the Mormon bashing that I see here. My wife didn't go to church yesterday instead she stayed home and watched church on TV, it was their general conference. I must say they hide their evil ways very well. As I watched I was moved by some of the talks.

It was obvious as I watched the people talking that they loved The Lord.

Now I guess I can't say which Lord they loved but one of them specifically mentioned the one born in Bethlehem, the one born of a virgin, the one who fed 5000, the one who raised the dead, the one who suffered in Gethsemane, who died on the cross, who was raised from the dead, the one who preached for 40 days after his death to his followers and eventually at the end of 40 days ascended to heaven.

I don't know which different Christ you are referring to but it seems like the one I know.

Maybe they got some of their facts wrong, but I'm not sure I'm qualified to judge. Maybe some of their doctrines are strange but if we were all as good as them we would feel all feel a lot better about hearing the last trump.

I think my wife is the best person I have ever met and the best Christian too.

[greyfoxx39]

We have seen you on these threads numerous times, so I won't waste time in replying point by point to your comment. I'm sure that there has been ample evidence presented regarding the difference of the mormon God and mormon Christ to that of Christianity presented, if you were interested in reading it.

I'm also sure your wife is a very wonderful woman and lucky to have your love.

Your comment, "if we were all as good as them we would feel all feel a lot better about hearing the last trump." is applicable as far as the "goodness" of some of the membership. Having been born and raised in, and lived in various mormon communities I have know some who were exemplary in their conduct, and also some who had the traits of some of the lowest examples in society. Being "good" and following a religion that is non-Christian does not lead to salvation.

I'm sure it has been suggested to you before that if it distresses you to see our posts, that you refrain from reading them.

[rickomatic]

Maybe they got some of their facts wrong, but I'm not sure I'm qualified to judge. Maybe some of their doctrines are strange but if we were all as good as them we would feel all feel a lot better about hearing the last trump.

If it was about "being good", then the LDS might have something. But The Lord does not grade on a curve. It is pass/fail. And only He provides the passing grade through what He did FOR us.

As for the testimony of those on TV yesterday. If their belief in what the nature of God is, is corrupted by the cult of MormonISM then all the "Bethlehems", "virgins" and "feeding thousands" are merely words. Either that, or they are ignorant of the "real" beliefs of the LDS church as set forth by Joseph Smith.