Posted on 04/17/2011 2:58:04 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
Sounds like it's time to print the OATHs and COVENANTS that the MORMONs swear to in their TEMPLEs.
Have a nice evening.
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You made me LOL! Your are just silly. You don't have a clue about what you post, but will burp it out anyway. How impressive. All the more reason to ignore you and your mindless dribble.
Yep...we must watch out for those crazy-eyed Mormon suicide bombers screaming Brigham Young Rules!!
Don’t recall where anyone indicated that mormons, the people, weren’t good, pleasant, decent people. Could you enlighten us for the sake of presenting a factual argument vs. a strawman? Folks were trying to talk about the church doctrine and teachings, the ISM, the religion.
In regards to “meddling”, would you tell the 52,000+ missionaries who knock on doors, the countless thousands of ward and stake missionaries to stop “meddling” by going door to door, peddling the story that all of Christianity is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord? It is a legitimate comparison to your criticism of folks here. What say you?
Just because they don’t have the courage to tell you to your face, doesn’t mean they don’t believe it and now they are on a campaign to label themselves as something they were loathe to do just a few years ago. That they and only they, are the only true Christian church in all of Christendom.
That may not mean much if anything to you, but to us, it does. Is it that you harbor a hidden bigotry or disdain of your own towards those who would contend for our faith in the face of overwhelming odds? I’ve seen many express very similar sentiments who come down on the side of mormonism only to find out later there are other motives.
Invariably, yes, you are responsible for your own actions. IF you are incapable of resisting the temptation, then it’s quite possible you need to adjust your FR settings. So that in the future, you aren’t tempted to click on a thread that could possibly upset you. Removing the temptation is one of the first steps in overcoming a weakness.
Yes, you can make up your own mind. Yet, based on your comments and posts, I’ve seen you try to convince others through a constant, vitriolic harangue of brow beating. I don’t have to try very hard to see that you are trying to squelch the discussion. Denying others the opportunity to make up their own mind about the information presented.
Are we/they not to be afforded the same “courtesy” of making up our own mind(s)? Are you saying that by posting the information, we are preventing others from making up their own minds? If the information presented is a point of contention for you, by all means post some rebuttal information. But by going off on your screeds towards the posters, that demonstrates you don’t have much, if anything though.
Is the truth that unpalatable that folks must be stopped at all costs from revealing it? Ignoring something doesn’t make it go away, no matter how hard you may wish it could.
The “campaign”, as you call it, may not pass your test of what is or is not necessary, but then again, that’s your not call is it? It’s up to each individual to determine if the “campaign” is necessary. Those who see/use the information presented to make decisions are the ones who determine the necessity or efficacy of the “campaign”, not a single arbiter of what is and isn’t deemed necessary.
If, and that’s a big IF, folks were being singled out and targeted due to their religion, then your last statement would have a modicum of merit. As it is, it’s inane and another in a long string of ad hominem strawmen. It brings nothing to the table except another in a long string of pointless babble.
Have great and blessed night!
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Post #48, when Colofornian said:
"If you are auditioning to become a god, of course, you'll be on your best behavior!"
Insulting, to say the least, and not at all indicative of the Mormons I know.
Good night...as in feel free to not further ping me to this thread.
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Because they don’t tell you the men are working to be gods, doesn’t mean the men aren’t working for that goal.
When you said you don’t know much about mormonISM you were correct, there is much they will not tell you about their beliefs. What they are willing to tell you, is an attempt to make them sound like “just another Christian group”. It’s called deception.
Good night.
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Well don't let any facts get in the way of your subjective opinions. The last part of this statement comes across to me as saying, "Hey, if you say something which runs crossways vs. my opinion on a topic, in this case, Mormons...then, hey, you're a saboteur."
(I suppose that's in contrast with people who say things which already agree with your thinking...those people aren't "saboteurs." Why? 'Cause they agree with your thinking)
Boy, it must be a dangerous world out there for you. Who knows? Some fact or some opinion you disagree with may be lurking around any corner, ready to pounce on you and sabotage your viewpoint. And so such folks tend to hang around in only "safe" environments -- where people won't shake up your worldview.
Your comments here are actually very hilarious.
Let me explain it another way: People express things all the time. And usually, content-wise as to what they may say, there's really not all that much different between...
...somebody interpreting what you say as
EXposing what they believe
...vs. what somebody might deem as
IMposing what they believe.
You want to make it sound like we're the IMposers -- and the Lds you've had contact with simply EXpose their faith. But there's no reason other than dislike of content to come to such a conclusion. If anything, Mormon missionaries are disturbing so many people around the world with their doorbell-ringing & knocking, THEY are the imposers. (When we post online, so doorbells go off...if you think the headline is provocative, nobody forces you into these discussions)
You know, a LOT of times it simply comes down to whether the person is receptive to what somebody else is saying as to whether they consider it "exposing" vs. "imposing." (I mean, sure we can all agree that some who come across as "imposing" might display the same sort of behavior as a drunk forcing himself on a woman at a party...IOW, lack of gentleness, to say the least. But you haven't specifically complained about that...so it's a non-issue)
The key Q here is...when the Mormon church calls ALL of us Christians as "apostates," why don't you deem them as "meddling" in our "business" of who we are in Christ?
The reason I think "why?" You just haven't exposed yourself to what Mormons have said about Christians -- and therefore have failed to apply the same standard toward them as you have us.
Tell us, wku man...what do Mormons consider Christians to be? In a word, apostates. Here, I'll even partially use YOUR language so that you comprehend the parallel going on here: On Lds.org, "similar articles appear regularly on" Lds.org and BYU Web sites & other Mormon sites, sometimes bashing Christians. These articles provoke us to respond.
Let me give you two quick excerpts as examples:
Go to Lds.org and look up the word "apostasy": When individuals or groups of people turn away from the principles of the gospel, they are in a state of apostasy. One example is the Great Apostasy, which occurred after the Savior established His Church. After the deaths of the Savior and His Apostles, men corrupted the principles of the gospel and made unauthorized changes in Church organization and priesthood ordinances. Because of this widespread apostasy, the Lord withdrew the authority of the priesthood from the earth. This apostasy lasted until Heavenly Father and His Beloved Son appeared to Joseph Smith in 1820 and initiated the restoration of the fulness of the gospel.
Source: Apostasy
See how provocative that is? There ya go. The Mormon church meddling in our business, sabotaging who we are by slandering us. Do you care that they do this with millions of $ of bad-rep press? (Seemingly, no)
Therefore, you are two-faced in the way you approach this.
Example #2 -- from a BYU Web site:
The idea that Christ's church no longer existed was CENTRAL to Joseph Smith's prophetic claims...following the greatest apostasy the world has ever seen comes the greatest dispensation the world has ever seen, the one in which all things would be restored, the one which would not end in apostasy, the one which would truly spread to all the world to prepare it for the great and dreadful day of the Lord. In a sense, this became the central teaching of Mormonism, what some scholars refer to as a "myth"; like the story of the fall and the atonement, for the followers of Joseph Smith the story of the apostasy and restoration came to define the world and their place in it.
Source: Appendix D: Bibliographical Note on Latter-day Saint Writings on the Apostasy
Did you catch that? The Mormon teaching about us being so-called "apostates" is not some secondary obscure teaching. Rather, this Mormon writer concedes it's "Central" -- "became the central teaching of Mormonism"...and he says, that's how they defined their world and place in it.
Bottom line: If the Christian church didn't apostatize, no need existed for Smith to start his church. Therefore, the Mormon churchlife is 100% dependent upon their claim that the Christian church died en toto!
Good night.
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Post #48, when Colofornian said:
“If you are auditioning to become a god, of course, you’ll be on your best behavior!”
Insulting, to say the least, and not at all indicative of the Mormons I know.
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so the mormons you know are nasty rotters...
"One of these things is not like the other..."
When your slate is clean.....you can throw stones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhViRRmCvTI&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
LOL! Oklahoma is the reddest state in America. Not one county, in the state, voted for obummer. We have Holy Rollers, Mormons, Jews, Baptists, Methodists, Snake handlers, muslims and Catholics and a dozen other. We take care of each other. Who are you to tell us?
Unfortunately your understanding of Mormoan teachings is limited or you would not be able to make the statements which you have.
I have met people who are all and everything but Christians who are nice, pleasant people. But if you recall Satan himself did deceive Eve and i doubt very much he presented himself as anything but "nice and pleasant' or she would not have given him the time of day.
It is the teachings of the Mormon church which are in direct opposition to the Scriptures and the known Truths of the Christian faith which posters are addressing. As a Christian we are called to defend our faith as well as put down false tea chings and expose them, just as Christ taught that we should.
His example was clear as He faced down the religious teachers of His day...using terms such as "white washed hyypocrites"..."Brood of Vipers"...and various other names and Woes He spoke against them.
Mormonism teaches a false and very dangerous religion which keeps people in bindage to rites, rituals and a host of other false and deadly statements which keep people from the true risen Christ of Christianity. This is why pretty much the entire Christian community has determined Mormonism is NOT Christian for it is a false reliion masking as truth.
Some base their opinions on "expereinces" with people...and often times do not see the danger they are in until they find themselves bound and gaged. It is wise not to believe persons until you've researched more deeply than accepting a simple kind word or action...motives matter as does the source of their actions as well their intent.
Wolfs do mask as sheep....never as the wolfs that they are.
Apparently, you are so timid you can't display a state flag in profile. How......errrrr. Well, I'll be here in Oklahoma. We like Catholics here.
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