[MissesBush]

Is your church held to the same standard of perfection that you hold the Mormon Church? Could it POSSIBLY be that wires got crossed which lead to the failure of all involved to call the police? A Mormon bishop would not call the police because it would breach confidentiality of confessed sins, which would lead to people chosing not to confess them. The person commiting a criminal act would be strongly urged to confess to the police at the risk of their church membership for not doing so. But a Bishop would not breach that confidentiality. Go worry about the short-comings in your own faith instead of always trying to demean the LDS faith. Or is that why you obsess over these things, to cover up your own religion’s flaws?

[Colofornian]

Is your church held to the same standard of perfection that you hold the Mormon Church?

My church doesn't pretend to have 1/5th or more of its membership acting as "gods-in-embyro"...a fave term many Mormon leaders have referenced the Mormon "faithful" as...

Should we not expect more from "gods-in-embyro?"

My church doesn't pretend to have a "living prophet" guiding the church as the actual voice of God.

Should we not expect more from a church that claims to have a Moses in their midst - operating at the helm of all of its operations?

[Colofornian]

A Mormon bishop would not call the police because it would breach confidentiality of confessed sins, which would lead to people chosing not to confess them.

(Yeah, well click on that third link -- in the article about "Brother Curtis" in that Sacramento paper -- re: how the Mormon lawyers continually distorted the "clergy privilege" argument in that case...the author of the "Brother Curtis" book lays that out real well)

[Colofornian]

Go worry about the short-comings in your own faith instead of always trying to demean the LDS faith.

BTW, have you applied this advice to yourself? Do you worry about the short-comings in your own faith before you go on FR and demean other posters' religious comments? Or is it ONLY YOU that has the open free license to offer religious-based critiques? You seem to be able to readily demean...so what are we to believe? The message you preach -- or your actions?

Well will consistency find you? When will you offer up actions that actually back up what you say?

[Colofornian]

Could it POSSIBLY be that wires got crossed which lead to the failure of all involved to call the police?

(Of course, that's possible. But, then, when that happens, you don't go around after the fact touting lies in press-release statements -- like the AZ Mormon church did in this case that.."When abuse does occur we work to see that it is reported to the authorities"...do you?)

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I don’t think the poster holds Mormonism to a standard of perfection, as you say...

On the contrary, he is pointing out that even though Mormonism spends millions on PR firms to convince others that it is perfect, it is no such thing.

It sure bothers Mormons when Christians quote Mormon leaders and post facts, evidence and articles that show it in daylight.

That must reveal deep seated insecurity that the (Mormon) emporer is naked.

[svcw]

I have an idea deal with the story about a pedophile rather than turn on the poster. Show some condemnation of the perp.

[greyfoxx39]

A Mormon bishop would not call the police because it would breach confidentiality of confessed sins, which would lead to people chosing not to confess them.

Are you approving of this tactic in the case of a 14-year-old who is sexually abused?

Two seperate bishops failed to notify either the law or Child Services of this pedophilia. Also, Susan Brock's daughter was arrested on similar pedophilia charges involving the same boy.

This is noting but an attempt to cover up by the mormon church leadership.

It's been in the news for months in Phoenix, since October 2010....and the mormon church is just NOW making a statement. The facts that have come to light are disgusting and the church didn't say a word until the court records were made public.

Supervisor’s Wife Accused Of Sex With Minor

Brock pleads guilty (Woman and daughter both have sex with underage male-Phoenix)

Mother and daughter accused of molesting teen boy for three years, police say

Susan Brock Sentenced To 13 years In Sex Case

[Elsie]

LOOK!

OVER THERE!!!!!

[T Minus Four]

Let's talk about clery-penitent confidentiality.

First of all, we'll cede that LDS Bishops are "clergy", even though they are unpaid "volunteers" and have no real training, unlike Catholic and protestant clergy who have college training.

Now we have to understand in what context clergy may claim confidentiality. The gulity party must have come to the clergy who must have been acting in official capacity and confessed a crime. No one else may have been present except other clergy.

Now we'll specifically talk about child abuse. If a member of the clergy has a reaonable suspicion of abuse being committed, even by his congregant, he is REQUIRED by law to report to police.

If he hears about it through a third party he is REQUIRED to report.

If anyone else was present besides other clergy when abuse was confessed, or if it was revealed in a non-official capacity, he is REQUIRED to report.

And in 26 states, INCLUDING ARIZONA, even if child abuse was reported withing the usual bounds of clergy-penitent confines, HE IS STILL REQUIRED BY LAW TO REPORT.

check it out here: Mandatory Reporting of Child Abuse and Neglect