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Local group of Catholics take stand against sex abuse
WAVE ^ | Apr 22, 2011

Posted on 04/22/2011 2:18:48 PM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Cicero

Cicero, do some homework. Catholics that are fed up with their own church’s actions are exactly the people who need to speak out! All of the lawsuit money that keeps being spent on sex abuse BS, is only because Catholic bishops do not throw out child molesting priests after they learn about abuse. It takes 20 years to throw out a priest, in the mean time the pedophile gets more kids. This is sick! And what is worse is people like you who obviously know very little about what is actually happening spout off to make Catholics look even worse!

And of course this is not just a Catholic problem, but we Catholic are suppossed to live our life to a higher standard which is why we must get this evil out of our church!!


41 posted on 04/23/2011 11:12:50 AM PDT by conservativeJim
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To: vladimir998
Now it's “some”, “most”, “a few”? but Vladi still says, “I have been right all along”!
Then let others consider Milwaukee: The insurance companies have begun to bulk at being asked to pay what isn't covered.

“Insurance doesn't cover Milwaukee priest sex abuseNov 23, 2010 ... Insurance doesn't cover Milwaukee priest sex abuse ... that could arise from more than a dozen lawsuits involving sex abuse by priests, ... member parishes but said settlement payouts could come from a number of sources, ...
www.necn.com/11/23/10/Insurance...priest-/landing.html?...3...”

“What some victims have said is that they lost their faith because of their victimization. Losing faith because of a trauma is nowhere the same as having your faith assaulted.”

No, it isn't. Losing one’s life is no where the same as receiving a trauma due to assault either!

“My charges of sciolism and bigotry are obviously true - as you so readily prove.”

Let's see...nope......Still not working....Is that it? Or is there some other charge you'd like to lay?

42 posted on 04/23/2011 11:32:35 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

You wrote:

“Now it’s “some”, “most”, “a few”? but Vladi still says, “I have been right all along”!”

And I have been.

“Then let others consider Milwaukee: The insurance companies have begun to bulk at being asked to pay what isn’t covered.”

Bulk? I think you mean balk. Also, when did any insurance company ever pay what wasn’t covered? And finding one case just proves my point.

“No, it isn’t. Losing one’s life is no where the same as receiving a trauma due to assault either!”

You were wrong: they never claimed their faith was assaulted. You claimed it. They sometimes lost their faith - which is different. No victim was under “assault” for his faith in the sex abuse cases. Not a single one. The ones being assaulted for their faith, of having their faith assaulted are the faithful Catholics here at FR.

“Let’s see...nope......Still not working....Is that it? Or is there some other charge you’d like to lay?”

Since my earlier charges against you are irrefutable - as shown by your own posts - I need not make any others.


43 posted on 04/23/2011 11:56:57 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: conservativeJim

If you look at what is actually going on, rather than what people say, you will find that about 90% of the sex crimes happened back in the 70s and 80s, from the fallout of the sexual revolution.

Since the scandal came to light, the bishops have passed draconian rules, with the presumption that priests who are accused are guilty until proven innocent.

What these organizations actually are after is to turn up more “victims” from 30 or 40 years ago, to sue the various dioceses and remove money that otherwise would be spent on charities and building maintenance and schools and cemeteries. That certainly is what SNAP, which this guy’s father has helped organize, has been doing.

It does nothing to protect new victims. But it drains the funds from the Church and it helps the media blacken the priesthood—which even in its worst years was better than other organizations such as public school teachers, who have been let off the hook.

Sure, I knpw what these guys say. But I also watch what they do. Ambulance chasers.


44 posted on 04/23/2011 11:58:55 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: conservativeJim; Cicero

You wrote:

“Catholics that are fed up with their own church’s actions are exactly the people who need to speak out! All of the lawsuit money that keeps being spent on sex abuse BS, is only because Catholic bishops do not throw out child molesting priests after they learn about abuse.”

Uh, buddy, have you missed most of the last decade? As soon as a priest is accused he is suspended. There doesn’t even have to be evidence, just an accusation, to get him suspended and removed from his parish. That has been the case for 8 years now, This idea that bishops are just moving accused (let alone guilty) priests around is complete rubbish. It hasn’t been happening on the part of the bishops for years now.

“It takes 20 years to throw out a priest, in the mean time the pedophile gets more kids.”

Not for the last 8 years at least. What you’re talking about is decades old events. Do you realize that?

“This is sick! And what is worse is people like you who obviously know very little about what is actually happening spout off to make Catholics look even worse!”

Cicero is right. You’re wrong.


45 posted on 04/23/2011 12:10:35 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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To: ViLaLuz

You are most welcome!


46 posted on 04/23/2011 12:17:11 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: vladimir998

” I need not make any others.” Then don’t!


47 posted on 04/23/2011 12:50:29 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Cicero
It appears "Conservative Jim" just joined us today to make his one and only post castigating his fellow Catholics. I'd love to see his IP address.

Mrs. Prince of Space

48 posted on 04/23/2011 10:42:18 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Proud member of the only church started by Jesus Christ over 2000 years ago...)
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To: conservativeJim

You do not sound like any Catholic I know. I suspect you are a fake.


49 posted on 04/23/2011 10:57:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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