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So, are you then admitting that the "gates of Hell" have prevailed against the Catholic Church?

An assault is not victory. The Church has weathered and is beating it back, very successfully. We have the exactly right Bishop of Rome to do so.

The assault does seem to have prevailed outside the Church, in large parts of the Episcopal and some of the Lutheran, etc.

The Church is the primary target - the visible Church. And the vectors are primarily homosexuality and abortion. It is a war of world views and a culture war. Gramscian refers to Antonio Gramsci, a Marxist intellectual and politician, who believed that it was necessary first to delegitimize the dominant belief systems.

This is what we see today in the leftist attack on the Church, to delegitimize Christian values and culture. Attack the worldwide visible Church, undermine it, and thereby destroy the culture to replace it with relativism and Marxist atheism.

What frustrates many Catholics on this site is seeing conservatives piling on and unknowingly helping this along. To me it is strategy akin to hoping the alligator eats them last.

I was responding to a post that talked about the homosexual lobby infiltrating the Catholic Church with the intent of bringing it down, just like you said. My point was that it appears they were able to do exactly what they planned and the Church is paying the price for lax vigilance all those years. It is also true that this problem did not just start in the 1960's but was a very serious problem that went back over a thousand years ago as evidenced by St. Peter Damien's treatise Book of Gomorrah see here.

For a church that boasts of being the only true church Jesus Christ established in 33 a.d., it is puzzling how such gross evil can reach all the way to the Pope(s) - who claim to be Christ's representative on earth and have authority over all of Christendom. That's why I believe the actual church Jesus established is NOT a single man-made entity but a universal and spiritual body consisting of all those who place their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior. It doesn't make any sense that, in light of the victory of evil within many "Christian" denominations, that Jesus COULD have meant only one of them. Jesus prayed for us all and he clearly said that his church would be victorious over anything the devil threw in its path. It is and forever WILL be!

.....And you got that right, as a Christian and a Catholic, it is any wonder why I shake my head in shame when those who call themselves Bible Christians, remember what Jesus has said about getting rid of the log in their own eyes first, before accusing others and also about casting the first stone, because ALL are weak humans who are in need at all times in the good news of Jesus and His Gospel.