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They Say Marriage is a Dying Institution: What's Really Dying is Love
Catholic Online ^ | 5/10/2011 | Jennifer Hartline

Posted on 05/10/2011 7:59:51 AM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin

WASHINGTON, D.C. (Catholic Online) - The pronouncement came from actress Cameron Diaz and psychiatrist Dr. Keith Ablow last week: marriage is a dying institution. It is an old tradition that has now overstayed its welcome and should be thrown out the back door. It doesn't suit us or our world any longer. So they say.

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: culture; divorce; marriage; morality
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To: struggle

Well, I was the honors/AP kid from a broken home. And having had the foundation of my world destroyed, I was determined that my children would never have to endure that.

Perhaps Dr. Ablow comes from a subculture where divorce and self-serving parents are the norm, and children grow up never knowing what they have lost.


21 posted on 05/10/2011 8:44:42 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: 17th Miss Regt
It all depends on whether you can put the interests of your spouse ahead of your own interests and if she/he can do the same.

Precisely. When you say "I choose you" to your spouse first thing every morning, and then proceed with the attitude you mentioned, every act you perform is a gift of giving, and everything your spouse does is a gift you receive. 15 years married here. Looking forward to every day to come.

22 posted on 05/10/2011 8:46:45 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: cjshapi
I’ve offered to sign a prenup but he has declined, stating that he can’t enter into a marriage again thinking that it could fail.

One could argue that a prenuptial agreement needn't have anything to do with distrust. Rather, it could be viewed strictly as a protection of his children's inheritance rights (e.g., in the event that he should precede you in death).

Regards,

23 posted on 05/10/2011 8:50:20 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Bed_Zeppelin
"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." Matt 24:12

Part of it is how society has changed the definition of "love." Now it's just a feeling or attached to the physical, and once that changes or is gone, so are they. But that's not how God defines love. It's a decision, an act of will, a choice. The best definition I ever heard for love "a quality decision to view someone as valuable and precious." Notice it doesn't say anything about how lovely the beloved is or how loving the beloved is behaving at any particular time. It's totally on the person doing the loving to will to love.

24 posted on 05/10/2011 8:54:39 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

The End Of Empathy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2525462/posts

A University of Michigan Study of nearly 14,000 college students has found that they have less empathy than college students did during the 1980s or 1990s. In fact, today’s college students scored about 40 percent lower in empathy than their counterparts did 20 or 30 years ago.

Empathy is one of the most valuable psychological resources we have. It allows us to resonate with and respond to the suffering of others. It also allows us to care deeply about the fates of those we love, including our spouses and children. When empathy is destroyed, people are free (in a terrible way) not only to ignore the needs of others, but to perpetrate emotional or physical violence upon them.


25 posted on 05/10/2011 8:57:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Empathy is one of the most valuable psychological resources we have. It allows us to resonate with and respond to the suffering of others. It also allows us to care deeply about the fates of those we love, including our spouses and children.

Liberals believe that empathy is the government's business.

26 posted on 05/10/2011 8:58:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: twhitak
Love is important, but what is really “dying” is commitment (and not just in marriage).

Agreed. Also the ability to delay gratification and actually put in the labor before gaining the reward is "dying."

27 posted on 05/10/2011 9:00:05 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

And contraception is the killer.


28 posted on 05/10/2011 9:09:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
A University of Michigan Study of nearly 14,000 college students has found that they have less empathy than college students did during the 1980s or 1990s. In fact, today’s college students scored about 40 percent lower in empathy than their counterparts did 20 or 30 years ago.

Hmmm. I wonder how much of that is an unintentional consequence of the combination of both multiculturalism and the self-esteem movements? When it's been drilled into your head from the time you're 2 that everyone is the same and everyone is a winner, and that you're just so special, it's hard to see anyone's plight. First, because you're taught to be self-centered, and second because you're taught to just accept other cultures/people as they are and not worry about them, after all, they WANT to be that way, or the government will fix it.

29 posted on 05/10/2011 9:11:46 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

1-Selfishness.
2-Promotion of immediate Self gratification.
3-Promotion of a “no consequences” society.


30 posted on 05/10/2011 9:28:41 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: utherdoul

Priorities to form a solid foundation!
1- Similar Values
2- True Friendship
3- Mutual Trust
4- Mutual Respect
NOT;
Common interests,
Good sex,
Good communication....
These are important, but change throughout your life, and therefore don’t provide the FOUNDATION that the first 4 do.

Just married for the first time at 57.


31 posted on 05/10/2011 9:32:33 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: dfwgator
Liberals believe that empathy is the government's business.

They fail to consider that a voluntary provision of wealth is called charity, but an involuntary provision is called theft.

Petards. They are hoisted.

32 posted on 05/10/2011 9:37:17 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: absolootezer0

I had one 33 years ago do that to me. I have been married to my second wife now for 26 years.

LLS


33 posted on 05/10/2011 9:40:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: jerseyrocks
First, what attracted them to their spouse in the beginning that doesn’t attract them now, same person?

I've seen more than a few women marry a man there's no doubt in my mind they didn't love. Why is beyond me but those guys are in for a bruising. Maybe they think they'll grow to love them but it never seems to work that way. Happens the other way around for guys looking for a trophy wife I'm sure also.
34 posted on 05/10/2011 9:45:18 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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35 posted on 05/10/2011 9:58:33 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Congratulations. Husband and I have been married 20 years and have known each other for 25. What I hope for my children: to find good, honest, committed spouses and marry for life. You are right that selfishness destroys a marriage. Personally, if people lived up to the vows they took before God and their family/friends then divorce would be rare IMHO.


36 posted on 05/10/2011 10:11:08 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: alexander_busek

I tried to tell him that, but he doesn’t want to listen. His son is 22 and daughter is 15. Since I’ve never had kids of my own I feel blessed to be involved in their lives.

It’s my intent to make sure there’s never a reason for him to have needed one.


37 posted on 05/10/2011 10:28:15 AM PDT by cjshapi (Proudly posting without a tagline since 2001)
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To: justice14

Wishing you the best and an early Congratulations! May you and your loved one be blessed with many years of happiness!

I have been so blessed with 28 years with the man of my life! That unconditional love can be sometimes difficult to find, but one is so blessed when you find it!


38 posted on 05/10/2011 10:39:04 AM PDT by seekthetruth (Voted for BHO to prove you're not racist? Vote for anyone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot)
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To: seekthetruth

Thanks.


39 posted on 05/10/2011 10:41:05 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: struggle

There has been an excellent paper posted in here about the relationship between marriage and civilization. It basically makes the case for marriage creating and maintaining civilization.

Marriage protected me from myself in my younger wilder days. It provided sustenance and protection for my wife and children, so it protected them too.

It’s not about feelings, or “love”, it’s about making and keeping a promise that I made to her and God, in the presence of witnesses in 1967. It ultimately is about honor and integrity. It’s a way for me to define who I am.


40 posted on 05/10/2011 11:12:46 AM PDT by CPO retired
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