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Not taking offense at your calling me ignorant. I will just say, you are uninformed. See post #47.

I know, it sounds absurd. They study Catholic dogma from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Much like the Mormons study “The Book of Mormon”.

I was just making the point that Latin mass is not biblical without interpreters. SO IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE. Not me, the word of God says so.

I was just making the point that Latin mass is not biblical without interpreters.

The scripture you quote is not referring to the Latin Mass, but to glossolalia.

And we do have an interpreter: the Church of Christ herself interprets for us, and writes her interpretation down in a book called a "missal". Problem solved.

“They study Catholic dogma from the Catechism of the Catholic Church”

~which is based on Scripture and the Fathers commentaries and sacred tradition.

That’s ok. You aren’t the first of the non-Catholic FR posters who comment about and have little to no knowledge and less learning of the Catholic catechism.

Try this link http://members.cox.net/fidelis927/scripture_resources.htm
and you can get started reading Scripture and using the Catechism. I like the Ignatius and Navarre bibles with commentary. Very good background studies in the Navarre.

Enjoy!

You started out saying, “No joke.” and perhaps you intended it as a deflection for your false criticism against fellow Christians, but it hardly suffices from a broadside attack at the seriousness to which each member of this forum holds their faith.

The argument about language is poorly presented in my humble opinion. In the first three centuries, the Gospel and many old testament books were translated into well over a hundred languages. As Christ triumphed in the universal growth of Christendom, for which the oldest Churches of east and west deserve all the credit, one of the tools utilized to spread the Word and Christ's church as a small “c” catholic and universal church was the universal language of the educated reader: Latin and hence the Vulgate.

We would all be wise to bless that history of the instruction of Christ to “go forth...”.

Sure claims can be made that clergy (coming from sinful mankind) used the Latin instead of the local languages to keep mystery and superiority. Likewise it is certainly true that this usage of the Vulgate was to spread the faith. That argument can be held in a civil debate of history.

Likewise, there are plenty of issues with the KJV being the alpha and omega of translations that don't go along with your insistance upon no-translation being required and many Protestants that look with reverence on the KJV take offense when it is belittled by others in a debate on this forum that doesn't stick to strick historical context.

What cannot be argued is that the reforms of the leftists high-jacking the Second Vatican Council's efforts are being set right within the Roman church by Pope Benedict and I am a non RC that says, "Bravo" to "God's Rotwiller" (as the left terms Ratzinger) and celebrates his election and efforts for my brothers in Christ in that denomination. This tread is about a small part of that effort to turn back the leftist non-orthodox.

The are plenty of religious forums across the Internet where Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, Coptics, Anglicans, Calvinists and all the many denominations can have arguments about the details for true and false, correct and incorrect, valid and invalid expression and exercise of Christianity. We belittle our fellowship as conservatives on this forum however, if we don't, at a minimum, acknowledge that HERE we all are at least (small “o”) orthodox in our belief.

To do less minimizes our earthly efforts for our nation's salvation which, of course, are always subordinate to our Heavenly Salvation.

You are a smart and experienced poster. Give your fellow posters the same credit and show Christ's love from your heart as I know you can. Save the denominational one-ups-manship for other religious debate forums. We're busy saving the USA.