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End of the world? How about a party instead? (Most Christians Ignore it, Skeptics Milk it)
The Manila Bulletin ^ | 05/19/2011 | Tom Breen

Posted on 05/19/2011 8:39:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

NEW YORK (AP) -- For some, it's Judgment Day. For others, it's party time. A loosely organized Christian movement has spread the word around the globe that Jesus Christ will return to earth on Saturday to gather the faithful into heaven. While the Christian mainstream isn't buying it, many other skeptics are milking it.

A Facebook page titled "Post rapture looting" offers this invitation: "When everyone is gone and god's not looking, we need to pick up some sweet stereo equipment and maybe some new furniture for the mansion we're going to squat in." By Wednesday afternoon, more than 175,000 people indicated they would be "attending" the "public event."

The prediction is also being mocked in the comic strip "Doonesbury" and has inspired "Rapture parties" to celebrate what hosts expect will be the failure of the world to come to an end.

In the Army town of Fayetteville, N.C., the local chapter of the American Humanist Association has turned the event into a two-day extravaganza, with a Saturday night party followed by a day-after concert.

"It's not meant to be insulting, but come on," said organizer Geri Weaver. "Christians are openly scoffing at this."

The prediction originates with Harold Camping, an 89-year-old retired civil engineer from Oakland, Calif., who founded Family Radio Worldwide, an independent ministry that has broadcast his prediction around the world.

The Rapture — the belief that Christ will bring the faithful into paradise prior to a period of tribulation on earth that precedes the end of time — is a relatively new notion compared to Christianity itself, and most Christians don't believe in it. And even believers rarely attempt to set a date for the event.

Camping's prophecy comes from numerological calculations based on his reading of the Bible, and he says global events like the 1948 founding of Israel confirm his math. But even some Christians who believe the Rapture will occur think he's wrong.

The Rev. Tim LaHaye, co-author of the "Left Behind" series of Christian prophecy novels, said Camping "trivializes the very serious study of Bible prophecy by ignoring Jesus' statement that everyone seems to know except him, and that is that no man knows the day nor the hour" that Jesus will return.

Camping has been derided for an earlier apocalyptic prediction in 1994, but his followers say that merely referred to the end of "the church age," a time when human beings in Christian churches could be saved. Now, they say, only those outside what they regard as irredeemably corrupt churches can expect to ascend to heaven.

Camping is not hedging this time: "Beyond the shadow of a doubt, May 21 will be the date of the Rapture and the day of judgment," he said in January.

Such predictions are nothing new, but Camping's latest has been publicized with exceptional vigor — not just by Family Radio but through like-minded groups. They've spread the word using radio, satellite TV, daily website updates, billboards, subway ads, RV caravans hitting dozens of cities and missionaries scattered from Latin America to Asia.

"These kinds of prophecies are constantly going on at a low level, and every once in a while one of them gets traction," said Richard Landes, a Boston University history professor who has studied such beliefs for more than 20 years.

The prediction has been publicized in almost every country, said Chris McCann, who works with eBible Fellowship, one of the groups spreading the message. "The only countries I don't feel too good about are the `stans' — you know, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, those countries in Central Asia," he said.

Marie Exley, who left her home in Colorado last year to join Family Radio's effort to publicize the message, just returned from a lengthy overseas trip that included stops in the Middle East. She said billboards have gone up in Israel, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq.

"I decided to spend the last few days with my immediate family and fellow believers," Exley said. "Things started getting more risky in the Middle East when Judgment Day started making the news."

McCann plans to spend Saturday with his family, reading the Bible and praying. His fellowship met for the last time on Monday.

"We had a final lunch and everyone said goodbye," he said. "We don't actually know who's saved and who isn't, but we won't gather as a fellowship again."

In Vietnam, the prophecy has led to unrest involving thousands of members of the Hmong ethnic minority who gathered near the border with Laos earlier this month to await the May 21 event. The government, which has a long history of mistrust with ethnic hilltribe groups like the Hmong, arrested an unidentified number of "extremists" and dispersed a crowd of about 5,000.

No such signs of turmoil are apparent in the U.S., though many mainstream Christians aren't happy with the attention the prediction is getting. They reject the notion that a date for the end times can be calculated, if not the doctrine of the Rapture itself.

"When we engage in this kind of wild speculation, it's irresponsible," said the Rev. Daniel Akin, president of the Southeastern Baptist Seminary in Wake Forest, N.C. "It can do damage to naive believers who can be easily caught up and it runs the risk of causing the church to receive sort of a black eye."

Pastors around the country are planning Sunday sermons intended to illustrate the folly of trying to discern a date for the end of the world, but Akin couldn't wait: He preached on the topic last Sunday.

"I believe Christ could come today. I believe he could choose not to come for 1,000 years," he said. "That's in his hands, not mine."

No one will know for sure whether Camping's prediction is correct until Sunday morning dawns, or fails to dawn. In the meantime, there will be jokes, parties, sermons and — in at least one case_ a chance to make a little money.

Bart Centre, an atheist from New Hampshire, started Eternal Earth-bound Pets in 2009. He offers Rapture believers an insurance plan for those furry family members that won't join them in heaven: 10-year pet care contracts, with Centre and his network of fellow non-believers taking responsibility for the animals after the Rapture. The fee — payable in advance, of course — was originally $110, but has gone to $135 since Camping's prediction.

Centre says he has 258 clients under contract, and that business has picked up considerably this year. But he's not worried about a sales slump if May 21 happens to disappoint believers.

"They never lose their faith. They're never disappointed," he said. "It reinforces their faith, strangely enough."


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianity; endoftheworld; haroldcamping; rapture
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To: bronx2

bronx2 expatiated:
“Camping and his ilk are the direct products of individual interpretation of the Bible coupled with misguided trust in the theory of Sola Scriptua.”

Give it a rest.


41 posted on 05/19/2011 8:06:05 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Gamecock

Love it.

I wonder if I could get one to wear by Sunday afternoon, the 22nd.


42 posted on 05/19/2011 8:09:16 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Bitsy
Scripture also says God will not be mocked.

The only people who are mocking God are the single digit IQ buffoons who believe the rapture is Saturday.

43 posted on 05/19/2011 11:42:37 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: pnh102
Scripture states very clearly that not only does anyone not know when Jesus will return, but that we must reject the teachings of anyone who claims to know such a thing. IMO, Camping and these other blasphemers are doing the Devil's work.

That's your personal interpretation.

44 posted on 05/19/2011 11:43:57 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: Jeremiah Jr; null and void
Traveling Wilburys - End Of The Line
45 posted on 05/20/2011 3:40:52 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Grampa Dave

The group addresses those verses, making clear somehow they’re special and given that top secret info.


46 posted on 05/20/2011 3:59:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Belteshazzar
How else can one explain the continued existence of these Harold Camping types who are is the poster children for the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. Perhaps these Camping types would do well to give it a rest and not impugn the true message of Christianity.

Camping ,and the entire rapture crowd see all through a dispensationalist lens, while trying to decode God's plan.

This nonsense started with C I Scofield in the late 1800"s whose bible, with copious notes, energized those who needed to see the hidden plan of God.

The proponents of Sola Scriptura will argue they are not as loopy as Camping but their methodology and foundational assumptions are the same. The proponents of Sola Scriptura have no more moral authority than each other to assert interpretations of scripture because it is just them and their bibles to justify their faulty interpretations.

The Sola Scriptura types treat their Bible as a supernatural hero code book or a fortune tellers code book.

Camping and Sola Scriptura types demonstrate their lamentable ignorance of American protestant history. Historically these prideful interpretations of the bible produce cataclysmic prognostications which serve only to deprecate the doctrine of Jesus Christ.

47 posted on 05/20/2011 5:28:58 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: Jeff Chandler
That's your personal interpretation.

If you are a Christian, then I ask you to please consider the following passages of Scripture, From Matthew 24:

23 - At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.

24 - For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

25 - See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 - “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.

This is in addition to the direct teaching of Jesus where He personally states the time is unknown. While yes, this may be my "personal interpretation," it just happens to be based upon what Jesus taught. No one who calls himself a Christian can go around preaching things that are definitely and irrefutably un-Christian and not expect to be corrected and rebuked by the Christian community.

48 posted on 05/20/2011 6:02:23 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
. No one who calls himself a Christian can go around preaching things that are definitely and irrefutably un-Christian

Who determines what is definitively and irrefutably un-Christian?

49 posted on 05/20/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Who determines what is definitively and irrefutably un-Christian?

Someone who preaches false gospel under the moniker of Christianity is not a Christian. They are "workers of iniquity."

50 posted on 05/20/2011 10:49:06 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
Someone who preaches false gospel

How do you determine what is false gospel?

51 posted on 05/20/2011 11:01:09 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: ctdonath2

“The group addresses those verses, making clear somehow they’re special and given that top secret info.”

They are entitled to their interpretations. However, I’m not buying into it.


52 posted on 05/20/2011 11:05:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Didn’t say I was either. Just noting that it’s not a new topic to them.


53 posted on 05/20/2011 11:16:36 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Jeff Chandler
How do you determine what is false gospel?

The teachings of Jesus are well documented within the New Testament. Anything that goes against this, in a Christian context, is false in the sense that it is not Christian.

If you want to know if whether or not Christianity is the one true faith, that is what takes faith.

54 posted on 05/20/2011 11:26:59 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
The teachings of Jesus are well documented within the New Testament.

How do you know how to interpret those documents?

55 posted on 05/20/2011 11:38:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dead Man’s Party - Oingo Boingo

I’m all dressed up with nowhere to go
Walkin’ with a dead man over my shoulder

Waiting for an invitation to arrive
Goin’ to a party where no one’s still alive

CHORUS
I was struck by lighting
Walkin’ down the street
I was hit by something last night in my sleep
It’s a dead man’s party
Who could ask for more
Everybody’s comin’, leave your body at the door
Leave your body and soul at the door . . .
(Don’t run away it’s only me)

All dressed up with nowhere to go
Walkin’ with a dead man
Waitin’ for an invitation to arrive
With a dead man . . . Dead Man . . .

Got my best suit and my tie
Shiny silver dollar on either eye
I hear the chauffeur comin’ to the door
Says there’s room for maybe just one more . . .

CHORUS

Don’t run away it’s only me
Don’t be afraid of what you can’t see
Don’t run away it’s only me . . .


56 posted on 05/20/2011 11:40:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jeff Chandler
How do you know how to interpret those documents?

How hard is it to interpret "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." ? (Mark 13:32)

57 posted on 05/20/2011 11:47:51 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

Well obviously a lot of folks must interpret in some way which allows for all the end times posts I see on FreeRepublic.


58 posted on 05/20/2011 11:51:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Well obviously a lot of folks must interpret in some way which allows for all the end times posts I see on FreeRepublic.

And they would be wrong.

59 posted on 05/20/2011 11:52:42 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
And they would be wrong.

They claim to be right. How do we know who to believe?

60 posted on 05/20/2011 11:54:51 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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